Insulate Britain.

[Kippax]

This will sicken you even more:

https://tinyurl.com/s7jfyr8y

while I don’t think that violence is the answer, I can fully sympathise with the van / truck drivers and paramedics who resorted to physically removing the protesters.

They have a living to make, the paramedics have a duty of care to their patients.

The police have proved themselves to be completely inept and toothless and should be ashamed to wear the uniform, I realise that their orders come from their corrupt, woke chiefs.

Police had no trouble telling queuing traffic at a filling station in Liverpool to move on as they were causing an obstruction to the Highway.

[Toodles McGinty]

They are selfish cultural Marxists bent on breaking down society and they care not one jot for whom they hurt in the process.

What have 'cultural Marxists' to do with anything?

Anyway, back to the protesters.

Don't most councils have schemes for people on low incomes to insulate their homes? They used to.

And don't new homes have to be insulated to certain standards?

So whose homes do they want to insulate? If you aren't on a low income, or have a new home, what do the government have to do with it? Insulate your own home if you want it insulating. You'd be an idiot not to.

While I'm fully behind making changes for Climate Change (and protesting in general), I can't see what is being achieved by stopping ambulances or people such as the woman today trying to get to hospital.

I'd have dragged them out of the way too.

[The PNP]

Just a thought, why was that woman travelling across London by car? Surely the quickest,easiest and cheapest way would be on the tube particularly when there is a fuel shortage and rocketing prices.

That's also been my take, on these roadblock-type protests......I'm sure a percentage of those that get held up in private cars, could have got where they were going via the tube, etc.

Taking all those tailpipes into a big city certainly isn't going to improve the air quality. They are adding to the congestion and parking problems. Their presence also increases the odds of collisions with vulnerable road-users. Then there's the unnecessary greenhouse emissions caused by using (scarce) fossil-fuels, which are warming the planet.

[Kippax]

That's also been my take, on these roadblock-type protests......I'm sure a percentage of those that get held up in private cars, could have got where they were going via the tube, etc.

Taking all those tailpipes into a big city certainly isn't going to improve the air quality. They are adding to the congestion and parking problems. Their presence also increases the odds of collisions with vulnerable road-users. Then there's the unnecessary greenhouse emissions caused by using (scarce) fossil-fuels, which are warming the planet.

Perhaps the paramedics should have stuck their patient on the tube or given them a crossbar ride.

Or the delivery drivers put their packages in their panniers or basket.

Not everyone can get from A - B with public transport or on a bike

[silver fox]

Perhaps the paramedics should have stuck their patient on the tube or given them a crossbar ride.

Or the delivery drivers put their packages in their panniers or basket.

Not everyone can get from A - B with public transport or on a bike

All possible IF you live in PNP's strange little world.

[The PNP]

Perhaps the paramedics should have stuck their patient on the tube or given them a crossbar ride.

Or the delivery drivers put their packages in their panniers or basket.

Not everyone can get from A - B with public transport or on a bike

Agree, which is why I restricted my comment to private cars.

People in my experience, are prone to jump in the car every time, regardless the nature, destination or duration of a trip. All I'm asking, is to give a little thought to the alternatives and use the most appropriate means of transport each time.

[local]

Which for some is always their car.

It's not for me I use a variety.

[said]

A lot of people cannot afford to buy high cost houses and they move too fast when they see a cheap property come up on the market - more often than not, the cheaper houses are the old workmen's cottages, two up , two down semis - many of which are of single skin brickwork - they cannot have wall insulation. The houses may be cheap - but they cost a hell of a lot more to heat - pity the estate agents do not give people all the information. Other houses have been built near or on Fine Jayne's tributaries - these have a lot of damp and cannot be insulated without a huge outlay first. There are several streets in Southport like that.

In one such street, a guy I knew had owned a second had furniture shop for a great number of years. I was passing by one day, and he said that he had been forced to close down. He showed me into his back room where pieces of large furniture had fallen through damp floorboards on the ground floor, and into an underground stream which you could see flowing under the shop. The whole property, and neighbouring properties had to be demolished.

Too many houses/establishments are OVER heated as it is I hate going shopping in the winter, shops are too hot and stuffy to stay in for more than a few seconds, all offices, particularly Council offices are real sweat boxes, and when I had a stay in hospital, there were no windows open and it was stifling, I had to have a fan on right by my bed throughout my stay and had to sleep on top of the bed not in it. Some people are far too soft and it makes it very difficult for others.

[Stuartli]

What have 'cultural Marxists' to do with anything?



Don't most councils have schemes for people on low incomes to insulate their homes? They used to.

And don't new homes have to be insulated to certain standards?

These crackpots have not really studied what they are demanding that the Government and the rest of us should do.

My property was fully insulated, loft and cavity wall wise, in the 2000s when the Labour government called on the energy companies to do the work free of charge for their customers who wanted it to be done.

As a result E-ON did exactly that for me and many, many thousands of its customers (same for those with other suppliers) and at no cost to the Government (Gordon Brown, being a Scot, demanded that businesses paid for everything he wanted).

So the current protestors should wind their neck in and cease demanding that the rest of the UK population should do exactly as they want climate change wise.

The government has made its intentions perfectly clear with regard to tackling climate change - we don't need to put up with self-appointed guardians of our future such as the leader of this motley crew. Their standards are clearly outlined in this link:

https://tinyurl.com/s7jfyr8y

[local]

These crackpots have not really studied what they are demanding that the Government and the rest of us should do.

My property was fully insulated, loft and cavity wall wise, in the 2000s when the Labour government called on the energy companies to do the work free of charge for their customers who wanted it to be done.

As a result E-ON did exactly that for me and many, many thousands of its customers (same for those with other suppliers) and at no cost to the Government (Gordon Brown, being a Scot, demanded that businesses paid for everything he wanted).

So the current protestors should wind their neck in and cease demanding that the rest of the UK population should do exactly as they want climate change wise.



The government has made its intentions perfectly clear with regard to tackling climate change - we don't need to put up with self-appointed guardians of our future such as the leader of this motley crew. Their standards are clearly outlined in this link:

https://tinyurl.com/s7jfyr8y

So who do you think actually paid to have your house insulated?

[Toodles McGinty]

These crackpots have not really studied what they are demanding that the Government and the rest of us should do.

My property was fully insulated, loft and cavity wall wise, in the 2000s when the Labour government called on the energy companies to do the work free of charge for their customers who wanted it to be done.

As a result E-ON did exactly that for me and many, many thousands of its customers (same for those with other suppliers) and at no cost to the Government (Gordon Brown, being a Scot, demanded that businesses paid for everything he wanted).

So the current protestors should wind their neck in and cease demanding that the rest of the UK population should do exactly as they want climate change wise.

The government has made its intentions perfectly clear with regard to tackling climate change - we don't need to put up with self-appointed guardians of our future such as the leader of this motley crew. Their standards are clearly outlined in this link:

https://tinyurl.com/s7jfyr8y

I've already said most of that in a previous post.

I asked what 'cultural Marxists' have to do with anything, as that is usually a right wing slur referring to Jewish people. See link.

I don't agree with 'Insulate Britains' methods. I don't even agree with their reasons. As I've already indicated.

There were two government statements in that article, both playing party politics instead of addressing the issue: A senior Government source last night said:
'We can't have Labour councillors and crusties making life hell for mothers on the school run...'
and Patel:
''While the Labour Party stand on the side of these so-called 'activists', the Conservative Party will always back the law-abiding, hard-working majority in this country.'

What on earth has Labour got to do with anything? They are largely irrelevant and haven't been in power for over a decade. Has Labour, Lib-Dems or even the Greens come out and supported IB? Was one of the protestors a Labour councillor? If so, one was a retired vicar, so is the Church of England standing on the side of these 'so-called activists'? Stop playing dog-whistle politics, blaming everyone else but those in charge of running the country, and address the issue.

I do agree with the freedom to protest. And while there are still deniers, or governments that promise everything but do very little, I agree with Climate Change protestors. But not to the point of stopping essential / emergency services. And I certainly wouldn't use stopping ambulances as a vote winning exercise.

[said]

Agree, which is why I restricted my comment to private cars.

People in my experience, are prone to jump in the car every time, regardless the nature, destination or duration of a trip. All I'm asking, is to give a little thought to the alternatives and use the most appropriate means of transport each time.

You won't get people to do that. Far too many people purchase a car to keep up with social acceptance whether they can afford it or not, whether it is necessary or not. They have to pay out for tax, insurance and the upkeep of the car. To justify these expenses they satisfy themselves by using he car as much as possible - and then say they do not know what they would do without their car. Nowt so queer as folk!

[Stuartli]

I've already said most of that in a previous post.

Ohm, so E-ON insulated your property as well then?

[Alikado]

So who do you think actually paid to have your house insulated?

The customers paid, The Governments dream up these schemes which will be popular with the Electorate and cat them in a good light - standing up to the multinational energy companies, making them pay back etc. When in actual fact what is happening is the Energy companies are increasing prices to pay for it and the customer is paying whether they like it or not.

[Stuartli]

You won't get people to do that. Far too many people purchase a car to keep up with social acceptance whether they can afford it or not, whether it is necessary or not. They have to pay out for tax, insurance and the upkeep of the car. To justify these expenses they satisfy themselves by using he car as much as possible - and then say they do not know what they would do without their car. Nowt so queer as folk!

What people do with their lives, including running a vehicle, is entirely their own business and of no concern to anyone else.

Mobility is an important factor of people's lifestyles and they organise it according to their requirements.

They don't need you or The PNP to "advise" them what to do and even more so the crackpots who threaten us illegally under the guise of being Insulate Britain or Extinction Rebellion members.