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    Quote Originally Posted by donkey22 View Post
    Apologies. I’ve amended my post.
    No problem, my comment was in general terms, there isn't a fuel shortage.

    Like you I thought rationing was to preserve supply, Tesco have closed off their forecourt with a sign saying "due to shortage of fuel only emergency service employees can buy fuel"

    I think the OP is suggesting a minimum amount would deter my experiences today of topping up, £5, £10 amounts, if they had to pay £30 for £10 of fuel they'd think twice, in a round about sort of way it makes sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamyramy View Post
    just gla took delivery of my lecy bike! despite being life cyclist ,but health issues curtailed its sojourns for a while,having to train up me hips to get me leg over, p/s the ferkin saddle haha!
    I believe they are shocking in the rain.

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    I had no problem filling up yesterday at Tesco Kew , the problem is a shortage of HGV drivers not fuel .

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    Quote Originally Posted by The PNP View Post
    A) The business runs commercial vehicles, whereas I use my bikes/run an electric vehicle. Maybe best castigate owner-operator truckers first, for they burn way more fuel per mile/emit more CO2 than ours do.

    B) Cost of living wouldn't suddenly 'skyrocket', not if it was done incrementally. E.g. 20p on a litre at each of three successive budgets.

    C) That's a good plan tbh, use some of the cash raised to fund better cycle infrastructure.
    You've proved, yet again, that you just don't have a clue about the real world in which real people live.

    The only people to profit from your idea of "the cash raised" would be to line the refinery owners' pockets, as the fuel duty figure is fixed at present and has been for many years.

    The reason? To help people and businesses to be able to operate successfully as much as possible and provide the maximum boost for the economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuartli View Post
    You've proved, yet again, that you just don't have a clue about the real world in which real people live.

    The only people to profit from your idea of "the cash raised" would be to line the refinery owners' pockets, as the fuel duty figure is fixed at present and has been for many years.

    The reason? To help people and businesses to be able to operate successfully as much as possible and provide the maximum boost for the economy.
    Every 5p it's jacked up also produces another 1p for Rishi.

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    Was out today (not chasing fuel) went past 3 filling stations locally, no major queues, in fact one filling station had vacant pumps ( not closed off) , hopefully the local idiots have been and gone.

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    haha have jamyramys homebrew tokeep me going,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuartli View Post
    You've proved, yet again, that you just don't have a clue about the real world in which real people live.

    The reason? To help people and businesses to be able to operate successfully as much as possible and provide the maximum boost for the economy.
    Oh, that old Tory chestnut; 'a boost for the economy'....Read instead; a boost for the party's popularity with motorists. Same can be said for not increasing the tax on alcohol, ostensibly to help the pub sector. Read instead; enjoy a cheap pint on us, so don't forget to vote our way at the next election!

    The shrunken post-Brexit £pound, means both road fuel and alcohol have become cheaper in real terms. Increased consumption of either is bad news. As burning more oil accelerates global warming, whilst encouraging more boozing damages the nations health, causes obesity, leads to more alcoholism and could mean more drunken driving victims.

    There are far better ways to 'boost the economy', i.e. by raising the threshold at which a person starts to pay tax. This would help everyone - not just those who choose to run a car. It leaves more money in all peoples pockets, leading to increased spending across the board and boosting economic activity.
    On Yer Bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The PNP View Post
    Oh, that old Tory chestnut; 'a boost for the economy'....Read instead; a boost for the party's popularity with motorists. Same can be said for not increasing the tax on alcohol, ostensibly to help the pub sector. Read instead; enjoy a cheap pint on us, so don't forget to vote our way at the next election!

    The shrunken post-Brexit £pound, means both road fuel and alcohol have become cheaper in real terms. Increased consumption of either is bad news. As burning more oil accelerates global warming, whilst encouraging more boozing damages the nations health, causes obesity, leads to more alcoholism and could mean more drunken driving victims.

    There are far better ways to 'boost the economy', i.e. by raising the threshold at which a person starts to pay tax. This would help everyone - not just those who choose to run a car. It leaves more money in all peoples pockets, leading to increased spending across the board and boosting economic activity.
    Yet again you reveal that you have little or no concept about how real people in the real world live.

    There's certainly no cheaper fuel or alcohol that's cheaper around (in fact the prices of both have risen sharply), but you wouldn't know about alcohol as you've made it clear you don't touch it. Your choice, but don't lecture others about it - it's not your prerogative or official authority to do so.

    As for raising the threshold at which people start to pay more tax, perhaps you just haven't noticed that the tax bands have been gradually raised on a regular basis? Thought not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamyramy View Post
    just gla took delivery of my lecy bike! despite being life cyclist ,but health issues curtailed its sojourns for a while,having to train up me hips to get me leg over, p/s the ferkin saddle haha!

    Ha!Ha You should have got a ladies bike without a cross bar then!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuartli View Post
    Yet again you reveal that you have little or no concept about how real people in the real world live.

    There's certainly no cheaper fuel or alcohol that's cheaper around (in fact the prices of both have risen sharply), but you wouldn't know about alcohol as you've made it clear you don't touch it. Your choice, but don't lecture others about it - it's not your prerogative or official authority to do so.

    As for raising the threshold at which people start to pay more tax, perhaps you just haven't noticed that the tax bands have been gradually raised on a regular basis? Thought not.

    Hypocrite! It is YOU who are criticising others and YOU who have not put much thought to anything, twit!

    "..... don't lecture others about it - it's not your prerogative or official authority to do so." Conflicting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    Hypocrite! It is YOU who are criticising others and YOU who have not put much thought to anything, twit!

    "..... don't lecture others about it - it's not your prerogative or official authority to do so." Conflicting!
    Wrong on both counts but, of course, none of us expect anything less from you.

    By the way, why not look up the dictionary definition of prerogative? Nothing contradictory with either of the descriptions I used, other than your ignorance.

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    According to the Echo Stanlow Refinery the second biggest in the country supplying a sixth of the countries fuel is on the verge of collapse.

    https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news...brink-21681102

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    Sweet, Said and PNP on Grindr swapping bollo5ks

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