Project Fear - duh!

[Alikado]

You can hold a poll with just two people. But ten minimum usually. Figures and graphs are commonly misrepresented in the media.

Polls for the media are usually commissioned to deliver a specified outcome using a limited number from a profiled pool, they are very rarely accurate.

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A little bit more misery with the news that we have signed a trade deal with NZ.

Must be miserable.

[Toodles McGinty]

A little bit more misery with the news that we have signed a trade deal with NZ.

Must be miserable.

Yeah, it's great:

FT - ... the New Zealand deal is expected to have almost no impact on the UK’s gross domestic product. According to the Department for International Trade’s internal assessment, the deal at most would boost the economy by 0.01 per cent. In another scenario, it would make the country poorer by 0.01 per cent.

BBC - Overall, only a tiny proportion of UK trade is done with New Zealand, less than 0.2%... ...the National Farmers Union (NFU) said the deal could hurt UK farmers and lower food standards.

Winning all the way. So we can get our food sent from the literal other side of the world.

All to join the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP), a group of 11 countries literally on the other side of the world.

Rather than get our food and goods from our doorstep. All to keep the rich nice and rich, avoid the EU's anti tax fraud laws. And keep those rich people away from the Human Rights Act. Repealing the HRA is the pet project of Dominic Raab, reincarnated as justice secretary after failing so badly as foreign secretary that even Johnson was embarrassed, who 'doesn't believe in social and economic rights'.

So much winning. It's exhausting to have our lives improved beyond belief.

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Yeah, it's great:

FT - ... the New Zealand deal is expected to have almost no impact on the UK’s gross domestic product. According to the Department for International Trade’s internal assessment, the deal at most would boost the economy by 0.01 per cent. In another scenario, it would make the country poorer by 0.01 per cent.

BBC - Overall, only a tiny proportion of UK trade is done with New Zealand, less than 0.2%... ...the National Farmers Union (NFU) said the deal could hurt UK farmers and lower food standards.

Winning all the way. So we can get our food sent from the literal other side of the world.

All to join the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP), a group of 11 countries literally on the other side of the world.

Rather than get our food and goods from our doorstep. All to keep the rich nice and rich, avoid the EU's anti tax fraud laws. And keep those rich people away from the Human Rights Act. Repealing the HRA is the pet project of Dominic Raab, reincarnated as justice secretary after failing so badly as foreign secretary that even Johnson was embarrassed, who 'doesn't believe in social and economic rights'.

So much winning. It's exhausting to have our lives improved beyond belief.

That's right we must be miserable and find a problem.
Well done.
I was gutted with the investment at Halewood.
Where do you get the foil from to line your home?

[Toodles McGinty]

That's right we must be miserable and find a problem.
Well done.
I was gutted with the investment at Halewood.
Where do you get the foil from to line your home?

'Find a problem'? With a trade deal that we may lose money on, and that the British Farmer's Union are dead set against?

You're celebrating that? That the effect on GDP could be 0.01% or negative growth of -0.01%?

That the only major winners are the mega-corporations who run New Zealand’s meat and dairy farms, all at the expense of British farmers who are already struggling to compete?

Yay! Almost like you are so deeply desperate to say 'we've got a deal' that the outcome for Britain doesn't actually matter.

A bit like when you were so triumphant at Johnson's 'oven ready' deal that you wittered on about 'only Boris could get it done'. You know, the one he signed and ripped up because it was complete shite?

Or that 'cheese deal' with Japan when most of Asia is lactose intolerant, but hey, it's a deal!

Not really 'backing Britain' are you? Just, as usual, backing your boy Boris.

Yes, it's good that Ford is investing in a factory it already has, to assemble components for electric vehicles as the switch to electric vehicles by 2030 would render the plant useless.

I must get my foil from the same place you get your blue blinkers. Try backing the country instead of your blond beloved.

[silver fox]

That's right we must be miserable and find a problem.
Well done.
I was gutted with the investment at Halewood.
Where do you get the foil from to line your home?

Since when did stating facts become miserable, no-one will deny or decry investment into the UK, but however you try the minuses are bigger than the positives and getting worse rather than better.

There are still many issues unresolved, even you must be aware that the EU and the UK are currently involved in discussions trying to sort the farcical situation with NI, you know that garbage from your beloved, “there will be no border down the Irish Sea” when there clearly is a border, hopefully that can be sorted.

Contrary to your anti EU stance, it is the EU who have come up with proposals to solve the problem, but of course the UK government is opposed to any measure of control, still have this naive belief that we can do as we please and others will have to comply and just forget their needs and interests.

[Toodles McGinty]

Seems Rik Mayall predicted Brexit back in 2002, in a show called 'Believe Nothing'. People obviously thought it was absurd back then.

But it just shows if you throw in a few phrases like 'the Turks are coming', and people will Believe Anything.