Divided England

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Still crying about that?

Still think you've just got to be right, regardless of the facts?

The clitoris has more than 8000 nerve endings. It still isn't as sensitive as some men on the internet.

The mouth has far more nerve endings, so do finger tips because they get far more use - on here they do anyway.

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About as well as you understood the procurement of PPE during the pandemic?

https://www.qlocal.co.uk/southport/f...tm#post6790150

I notice that you're studiously ignoring my post #132 on the above thread... A La Said. Despite being given authoratitive proof that you were wrong, you don't even have the good grace to apologise to the members you demeaned.

I have responded to your post #132 - I admire your tenacity in taking all that trouble to provide so much detail - unfortunately, it is all irrelevant.

Who really cares about PPE shortages, and what the hell does it matter. The way you have all suffered mass paranoia over this mild contagion it is a bl..dy miracle that the human race has survived for so long.

[Toodles McGinty]

You think? Look up how many responses you have made stating exactly what the media are claiming. There is far more noise coming from those who really don't know what they are talking about,and I DO know what I am talking about. You have taken everything published on this topic, and believed it without question - in other words you have been brainwashed into a scam of gigantic proportions.

It's rather like a salesman coming to your door and telling you your roof needs half a dozen tiles that are missing, and if you do not get the roof fixed you will have severe water seepage in the winter. Then you saying - Here is the money can you get it fixed for me. Duh!

WTF are you on about?

You've been out-Saided. Your services are no longer required.

Off you pop.

[seivad]

'Winter is Coming'
I thought you were one of those who criticised me for saying that Covid viruses are more active in the colder, humid months??

We have moved into a colder spell early this year, so from now until March, we are once again in the influenza period. So get yourself a hazmat suit.

I criticised you for saying that Winter was colder and humid. You got it bass ackwards. Summer is hotter and humid. Winter is colder and the air is dryer.

I've already had my high dose flu shot, but thanks for your concern.

[seivad]

I have responded to your post #132 - I admire your tenacity in taking all that trouble to provide so much detail - unfortunately, it is all irrelevant.

Who really cares about PPE shortages, and what the hell does it matter. The way you have all suffered mass paranoia over this mild contagion it is a bl..dy miracle that the human race has survived for so long.

I don't give a flying fish cake about your shortage of PPE during the height of the pandemic. I only care about your brother from another mother constantly claiming that the NHS was buying the damned stuff!

[seivad]

Yes your right the advert is a hoax there is no job

Seems to be a bit of a sensitive subject for you, perhaps you should get back to your clitoris erh studies.

Someone has to get the short end of the stick so to speak......

I had no intentions of replying to you again, but jeeze, your current attempt at proving the NHS buys PPE is pathetic.

Hospitals buy masses of different supplies. Is there any mention of PPE in the ad? Of course there isn't. Care to know why? Because North Bristol NHS Trust is still receiving free PPE push deliveries from the Parallel Supply Chain. PSC is no longer experiencing difficulty procuring PPE, and is continuing to push deliveries FOC until the end of March 2022.

Plus, as is par for the course, you've not taken into consideration that the information I obtained straight from the horse's mouth, was during the onset of Covid through the height of the first wave. Obtaining PPE was beyond difficult, which is why the DHSC's Parallel Supply Channel explored new channels. NHS participation in sourcing, verifying product standards, negotiating price and delivery schedules..... ZERO.

Trusts receiving free push deliveries. North Bristol NHS Trust is on the last line. Southport & Ormskirk Hospital is also on the list.

[Alikado]

I have responded to your post #132 - I admire your tenacity in taking all that trouble to provide so much detail - unfortunately, it is all irrelevant.

Who really cares about PPE shortages, and what the hell does it matter. The way you have all suffered mass paranoia over this mild contagion it is a bl..dy miracle that the human race has survived for so long.

Who cares about PPE shortages, the people who caught it because of the lack of of it, the relatives of the ones who died because of it being passed on due to the lack of it. Who doesn't care? The dead because they can't and you because you won't or are too stupid to.

[local]

I had no intentions of replying to you again, but jeeze, your current attempt at proving the NHS buys PPE is pathetic.

Hospitals buy masses of different supplies. Is there any mention of PPE in the ad? Of course there isn't. Care to know why? Because North Bristol NHS Trust is still receiving free PPE push deliveries from the Parallel Supply Chain. PSC is no longer experiencing difficulty procuring PPE, and is continuing to push deliveries FOC until the end of March 2022.

Plus, as is par for the course, you've not taken into consideration that the information I obtained straight from the horse's mouth, was during the onset of Covid through the height of the first wave. Obtaining PPE was beyond difficult, which is why the DHSC's Parallel Supply Channel explored new channels. NHS participation in sourcing, verifying product standards, negotiating price and delivery schedules..... ZERO.

Trusts receiving free push deliveries. North Bristol NHS Trust is on the last line. Southport & Ormskirk Hospital is also on the list.

You really are making a fool of yourself with this,

desperately trying to claim that NHS staff are not involved in procuring for the NHS and in particular turning a blind eye to wrongdoing the whole pivot of this ridiculous succession of drivel when I pulled up our resident potty mouth for slagging off NHS staff by implication.

If you wish to still join in remember you are supporting someone who flung wild allegations without thinking( as usual) of who would have had to support the alleged corrupt practices.

Far from Zero an NHS procurement team was in the cross-government PPE sourcing unit.

[Toodles McGinty]

You really are making a fool of yourself with this,

desperately trying to claim that NHS staff are not involved in procuring for the NHS and in particular turning a blind eye to wrongdoing the whole pivot of this ridiculous succession of drivel when I pulled up our resident potty mouth for slagging off NHS staff by implication.

If you wish to still join in remember you are supporting someone who flung wild allegations without thinking( as usual) of who would have had to support the alleged corrupt practices.

Far from Zero an NHS procurement team was in the cross-government PPE sourcing unit.

Nobody 'slagged off' NHS staff.

Give it up, FGS. 'By implication'? In other words, you threw a hissy fit over anyone stating our government is a bunch of corrupt liars, so took up the bizarre stance that anyone criticising the government is also criticising the (Hard WorkingTM) NHS staff. Then decided to defend one of the biggest liars, Hancock, for good measure.

It's that same toddler logic you always use. If anyone criticises your paramour, you become indignant, then twist it around that you are somehow being patriotic. Oh the poor NHS staff, under attack from 'Potty Mouth'. Where? Which post? Oh no, you can't, because it's in your head. You've decided it is 'implied'.

So just you, a lone figure tilting at windmills. Do you imagine that your beatified beloved will thank you?

The Good Law Project are pursuing the government through the courts for corruption and cronyism. For misuse of public funds. For hiring people like Diana Harding without going through the proper channels.

Now, I'm not sure what over-inflated opinion you have of yourself, that you think you are correct in the face of facts stating otherwise, but my money is on the barristers and QCs of the GLP. Rather than a besotted Tory catchfart who uses infantile terms such as 'potty mouth' and spouts toddler logic to get out of the holes he digs for himself.

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Its embarrassing for you to be caught out I suppose that's why you resort to the usual bout of verbal insulting diarrhea to obfuscate.

Your febrile posts do not detach you from the stark reality that if you call people corrupt in their dealings then all those who worked with them to do it are equally corrupt.

It's called joint criminal enterprise or parasitic accessory liability.

NHS workers and civil service workers are amongst them;


[I]3.12 A cross-government PPE sourcing unit, staffed by over 400 people, was established to secure new supply lines from across the world. Government contracted with over 175 new global suppliers through a bespoke online tool that enabled any potential and interested supplier to express their interest in supplying PPE for the emergency response. This was an operation of unprecedented scale and complexity, involving the Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO), Department for International Trade (DIT), Ministry of Defence (MOD), DHSC and Cabinet Office, as well as direct NHS procurement. It resulted in DHSC raising purchase orders for over 32 billion items of PPE direct from new relationships in source countries, as well as through our trusted UK suppliers to the NHS. Of the 32 billion items purchased, over 16 billion items (50%) have already been delivered or are in transit.[/I]

[Toodles McGinty]

Its embarrassing for you to be caught out I suppose that's why you resort to the usual bout of verbal insulting diarrhea to obfuscate.

Your febrile posts do not detach you from the stark reality that if you call people corrupt in their dealings then all those who worked with them to do it are equally corrupt.

It's called joint criminal enterprise or parasitic accessory liability.

NHS workers and civil service workers are amongst them;


[I]3.12 A cross-government PPE sourcing unit, staffed by over 400 people, was established to secure new supply lines from across the world. Government contracted with over 175 new global suppliers through a bespoke online tool that enabled any potential and interested supplier to express their interest in supplying PPE for the emergency response. This was an operation of unprecedented scale and complexity, involving the Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO), Department for International Trade (DIT), Ministry of Defence (MOD), DHSC and Cabinet Office, as well as direct NHS procurement. It resulted in DHSC raising purchase orders for over 32 billion items of PPE direct from new relationships in source countries, as well as through our trusted UK suppliers to the NHS. Of the 32 billion items purchased, over 16 billion items (50%) have already been delivered or are in transit.[/I]

Very impressive copy & pasting. Straight from the government department involved in the corruption.

I can just imagine some diligent NHS worker demanding to know where a box of gloves came from, then throwing the entire pallet back to the lorry driver that delivered it after the driver, privy as he would be to the entire supply chain, recited every link. As obviously the NHS worker had memorised every approved supplier across the globe. And if a new consignment came from Taiwan via Matt Hancock's second cousin, then that NHS worker would choose not to accept those desperately needed gloves in a pandemic, as he just might be liable for corruption charges under the joint enterprise rule.

Yep. Those corrupt NHS workers, just opening PPE and wearing it.

Or maybe those juniors in Matt Hancock's office, when he told them to fast track his mate's plastic cup firm. Fearing an accusation of corruption, they'd obviously tell their boss, head of the entire country's health care, where to stick his suggestion.

In the meantime, back in the real world...

[Desert Region]

I haven't been following this thread for a while. It's a little unclear as to who's saying what.

Who's suggesting that NHS staff could be guilty of corruption charges via joint criminal enterprise or parasitic accessory liability?

It appears to be Local. Is that correct?

[Desert Region]

I don't give a flying fish cake...

I've never heard that expression before!

[local]

Very impressive copy & pasting. Straight from the government department involved in the corruption.

I can just imagine some diligent NHS worker demanding to know where a box of gloves came from, then throwing the entire pallet back to the lorry driver that delivered it after the driver, privy as he would be to the entire supply chain, recited every link. As obviously the NHS worker had memorised every approved supplier across the globe. And if a new consignment came from Taiwan via Matt Hancock's second cousin, then that NHS worker would choose not to accept those desperately needed gloves in a pandemic, as he just might be liable for corruption charges under the joint enterprise rule.

Yep. Those corrupt NHS workers, just opening PPE and wearing it.

Or maybe those juniors in Matt Hancock's office, when he told them to fast track his mate's plastic cup firm. Fearing an accusation of corruption, they'd obviously tell their boss, head of the entire country's health care, where to stick his suggestion.

In the meantime, back in the real world...

Is that grudging and tacit acceptance that I was right that NHS workers were involved or are you going to continue obfuscating sprinkled with some Angela Rayner style insults.

Again you demean NHS workers as all being some lowly sycophants frightened of, wait for it Matt Hancock.


Pathetic.

[local]

I haven't been following this thread for a while. It's a little unclear as to who's saying what.

Who's suggesting that NHS staff could be guilty of corruption charges via joint criminal enterprise or parasitic accessory liability?

It appears to be Local. Is that correct?

I was defending NHS workers involved in the procurement of PPE.

Pointing out that if you claim the process was corrupt they would have had to be involved.

I was told they weren't involved but now it appears there is some retraction on that.

Oh and the usual potty-mouthed insults were spread liberally amongst it .