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  1. #16
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    You will always get an argument out of PNP, I heard he went for a circumcision but couldn’t have one because the doctor said there’s no end to that prick .

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    Quote Originally Posted by The PNP View Post
    It would be interesting to know what the start and end points of the o/p's trip were. It would also be of interest to learn if there is/are suitable cycle-route/s connecting those two points......Because if there is little or no safe provision on his route for bikes, it would explain why he felt compelled to try and make an unofficial 'route' of his own.
    You've just substantiated the original point about turning an argument on its head...

    You're the so-called expert on all matters cycling, so you shouldn't need to even ask the question.

    By the way, what is an "unofficial route"?

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    I still can't get my head around someone riding into a bloody big fence and blaming someone else our resident idiot doesn't speak for me nor I suspect many other cyclists in trying to defend it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuartli View Post
    By the way, what is an "unofficial route"?
    An 'unofficial route' is just that, i.e. a route made up by a rider in lieu of dedicated cycle infrastructure. Whereas when driving, you will usually take the shortest on-road route, with a view to self-preservation a cyclists may not.

    It will comprise of many parts. Like taking to the pavement to make it safely past a busy roundabout, a section of rough track/grassy area, utilising pedestrian crossings/green man signals, central refuges, bus-lanes, bike paths, back streets, etc.
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    Oh dear !.

    So what you are saying is a cyclist disregards self preservation while riding on the pavement, uneven ground or slippery grass or riding in central reservations, across pedestrian crossings and getting in the way of busses and taxis.
    Someone take the shovel off him he has dug himself in deep enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MICK/GILLY View Post
    So what you are saying is a cyclist disregards self preservation while riding on the pavement, uneven ground or slippery grass or riding in central reservations, across pedestrian crossings and getting in the way of busses and taxis.
    Someone take the shovel off him he has dug himself in deep enough.
    No not at all, avoiding main roads is a wise strategy. I myself often do such things, specifically to keep myself out of the way of uncaring traffic......Proof of the pudding is - after all these years, I'm still in one piece!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The PNP View Post
    An 'unofficial route' is just that, i.e. a route made up by a rider in lieu of dedicated cycle infrastructure. Whereas when driving, you will usually take the shortest on-road route, with a view to self-preservation a cyclists may not.

    It will comprise of many parts. Like taking to the pavement to make it safely past a busy roundabout, a section of rough track/grassy area, utilising pedestrian crossings/green man signals, central refuges, bus-lanes, bike paths, back streets, etc.
    The original poster took an "unofficial route" and crashed into an obstacle in the dark whilst there was a perfectly usable lit shared cycle/pedestrian path a few yards away.

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    Dedicated cycle infrastructure

    WTF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by salus.populi View Post
    The original poster took an "unofficial route" and crashed into an obstacle in the dark whilst there was a perfectly usable lit shared cycle/pedestrian path a few yards away.
    Were is the lit shared cycle/pedestrian path a few yards away.????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuartli View Post
    As he's proved with the above comment...
    Ha ha!! He needs to crawl back under his rock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by condemnation View Post
    Were is the lit shared cycle/pedestrian path a few yards away.????
    The term unofficial route ha ha give over .

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    Quote Originally Posted by MICK/GILLY View Post
    You will always get an argument out of PNP, I heard he went for a circumcision but couldn’t have one because the doctor said there’s no end to that prick .
    PNP would start an argument in a room by himself!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Londoner View Post
    What a funny state we have got into when every occurrence has to be someone else's fault. Who forced you to ride down there is it private property is it a public right of way. U.S. Lawyers have a lot to answer for getting money for idiots who buy coffee spill it on themselves then claim a lottery win for their stupidity because the coffee was too hot, whoever would have been expecting coffee NOT to be hot.

    I'd put it down to experience and not ride down places where you cannot see where you are going. Another tip don't drive your car without lights at night you might run into a member of the family coming the other way.

    I believe the route is legally a right of way which has been blocked off. There fore some who are not aware of this would still use it as if it were a right of way. There is a obvious division between this route ground and the grass verge. If there was no highlighting to the fencing, no lights or signs it is a breach of Health and Safety Rules. Natural England states that there should be signs and warning lights to any obstruction to a right of way. If the route has been in use for 20 years or more, without objection from the owner - it becomes a right of way

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    And would keep on spouting nonesense and make bad arguments to justify himself thinking he was winning against common sense, safety and the general consensus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The PNP View Post
    No not at all, avoiding main roads is a wise strategy. I myself often do such things, specifically to keep myself out of the way of uncaring traffic......Proof of the pudding is - after all these years, I'm still in one piece!
    You really couldn't make it up.....

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