Terror Attack.

[said]

He was not a terrorist, he was a man with Mental Health issues but a failed Asylum Seeker who had been arrested and then sectioned for carrying a knife, it begs the questions why was he still on the streets / in this country and highlights the issues within the Home Office of not manning Borders, not processing claims promptly and not returning failed applicants to where they came from. All failed asylum seekers should not be in the community but in camps awaiting dispatch.

Yes, but it appears that he did not act alone - three others have been arrested. He might have had issues with the asylum system, but did they all?

The amount of smoke indicates something like gunpowder, it was a small device only - but where on the high street sells bomb vests?

If he was killed in the explosion, then he would have suffered some disfigurement, how did they identify him - did he too, leave his passport in the taxi?

The taxi driver drove into the hospital at some speed and there did not seem to be anyone else being dropped off or picked up - our hospital has a 5mph restriction.

Which came first - the published story or the video clip? They appear to be at odds with one another.

The guy's name is Emad Al Swailmeen, possibly from Syria.

I would like to have a chat with the taxi driver to clarify some points that don't seem to be right.

[gsgsgs]

Yes, but it appears that he did not act alone - three others have been arrested. He might have had issues with the asylum system, but did they all?

The amount of smoke indicates something like gunpowder, it was a small device only - but where on the high street sells bomb vests?

If he was killed in the explosion, then he would have suffered some disfigurement, how did they identify him - did he too, leave his passport in the taxi?

The taxi driver drove into the hospital at some speed and there did not seem to be anyone else being dropped off or picked up - our hospital has a 5mph restriction.

Which came first - the published story or the video clip? They appear to be at odds with one another.

The guy's name is Emad Al Swailmeen, possibly from Syria.

I would like to have a chat with the taxi driver to clarify some points that don't seem to be right.

As far as I'm aware those originally arrested have all been released, wouldn't think you have a hope in hell in having a chat with the taxi driver.

I thought you kept yourself up to date with the news?
The four who were arrested, were released the following day without charge.
Merseyside Police believe it was a high explosive triacetone triperoxide (TATP) device. They don’t contain any gunpowder and are relatively easy to manufacture using ingredients readily available to any would be bomber on the high street. The Police also believe he manufactured the device alone, presumably after carrying out a forensic sweep of his house.

1) They had arrested 4 people and now released all 4.

2) Some reports suggest that the bomb didn’t fully explode which would explain why there was such little damage.

3) I would imagine that the police would have asked the taxi company where the driver had picked his fare up and worked from there.

4) As with all things like this, a number of versions of events were circulating on social media that differed from what the CCTV showed. We will have to wait and see what the drivers version is, no point in speculation.

5) As with all things like this, a number of versions of events were circulating on social media that differed from what the CCTV showed. We will have to wait and see what the drivers version is, no point in speculation.

6) I’m sure the police will be doing that for you.

Yes, but it appears that he did not act alone - three others have been arrested. He might have had issues with the asylum system, but did they all?

The amount of smoke indicates something like gunpowder, it was a small device only - but where on the high street sells bomb vests?

If he was killed in the explosion, then he would have suffered some disfigurement, how did they identify him - did he too, leave his passport in the taxi?

The taxi driver drove into the hospital at some speed and there did not seem to be anyone else being dropped off or picked up - our hospital has a 5mph restriction.

Which came first - the published story or the video clip? They appear to be at odds with one another.

The guy's name is Emad Al Swailmeen, possibly from Syria.

I would like to have a chat with the taxi driver to clarify some points that don't seem to be right.

Keep up

[Kippax]

Longing to hear the full story.
Hopefully will in the next few days.

The press are this morning reporting that he was actually from Iraq, how can someone be living amongst us for 7 years and the authorities didn’t know where he was from.

[Grassroots2]

The press are this morning reporting that he was actually from Iraq, how can someone be living amongst us for 7 years and the authorities didn’t know where he was from.

Precisely Kippax, the country has to limit the numbers, and deeper investigation on all applicants. Although our security agencies and military intelligence do a great job . More has to be done, and the necessary funding should be forthcoming. After all we talking about the well being of the citizens of our country .

[salus.populi]

The press are this morning reporting that he was actually from Iraq, how can someone be living amongst us for 7 years and the authorities didn’t know where he was from.

Becuase this country is riddled with incompetence and cost cutting.

[local]

Our problems seem to rest with the Courts.

We are a piggy bank for vexatious lawyers to pursue endless appeals at the tax-payers ie our expense.


n 2019, there were 8,000 judicial reviews against Home Office immigration and asylum decisions. Judges concluded 6,063 cases on paper, of which 90% were dismissed or refused, with around 17% being deemed by the judge to be “Totally Without Merit”.[footnote 18]

Since 2015, we have resettled almost 25,000 men, women and children seeking refuge from cruel circumstances across the world - more than any other European country.


And we continue to play our part as the third highest contributor of overseas development aid in the world.


However, over recent years we have seen an alarming increase in the number of illegal migrants, including Foreign National Offenders (FNOs) and those who pose a national security risk to our country, seeking modern slavery referrals – enabling them to avoid immigration detention and frustrate removal from our country.

There are now over 10,000 Foreign National Offenders, many of whom have committed serious offences, at liberty in the UK


The current appeals system can take years to complete an asylum appeal. As of May 2020, 32% of asylum appeals lodged in 2019 and 9% of appeals lodged in 2018 did not have a known outcome.

It goes on at;

https://www.gov.uk/government/consul...sible#chapter8

[local]

Becuase this country is riddled with incompetence and cost cutting.

Can't get my head around how throwing ever more money at the hungry lawyers and interest groups who frustrate the system would be helpful.

Perhaps a lot less might sharpen their act.

Incompetence definitely from the Conservative Government of Boris Johnson being weak.

[salus.populi]

Can't get my head around how throwing ever more money at the hungry lawyers and interest groups who frustrate the system would be helpful.

I wasn't suggesting that.

[Alikado]

Our problems seem to rest with the Courts.

We are a piggy bank for vexatious lawyers to pursue endless appeals at the tax-payers ie our expense.


n 2019, there were 8,000 judicial reviews against Home Office immigration and asylum decisions. Judges concluded 6,063 cases on paper, of which 90% were dismissed or refused, with around 17% being deemed by the judge to be “Totally Without Merit”.[footnote 18]

Since 2015, we have resettled almost 25,000 men, women and children seeking refuge from cruel circumstances across the world - more than any other European country.


And we continue to play our part as the third highest contributor of overseas development aid in the world.


However, over recent years we have seen an alarming increase in the number of illegal migrants, including Foreign National Offenders (FNOs) and those who pose a national security risk to our country, seeking modern slavery referrals – enabling them to avoid immigration detention and frustrate removal from our country.

There are now over 10,000 Foreign National Offenders, many of whom have committed serious offences, at liberty in the UK


The current appeals system can take years to complete an asylum appeal. As of May 2020, 32% of asylum appeals lodged in 2019 and 9% of appeals lodged in 2018 did not have a known outcome.

It goes on at;

https://www.gov.uk/government/consul...sible#chapter8

These problems should be easily solved, if a case is adjourned it should be promptly rescheduled, appeals should also be promptly scheduled, it appears that the the lawyers lodge an appeal on grounds 'A' when that is thrown out we lodge 'B' etc none of this should be allowed.
When an application is made and thrown out any appeal must be restricted to the the merits of only the application and hearing no new evidence / grounds etc should be introduced. All this should be done promptly, claim for asylum within 72 hours of arriving, paperwork lodged within 10 days, processed with 30 days, appeal lodged within 10 days, hearing within 30 days, removal within 10 days. All done and dusted in 3 months, it will save a fortune and word will soon get round that it actually sunnier on the other side of the Channel.

[MICK/GILLY]

Problem is though for all the legislation ( and it’s loopholes ) that takes up to 6 costly months to process as soon as an applicant is released into our society they have help to live here ( recourse to public funds ) but are not allowed to work so when it’s time to be deported they just fail to appear/disappear, so what if they get caught what have they got to loose.

Since we came out of the EU, immigrants and migrants and citizens of the EU need permission (leave ) to enter, to remain, to live and work in the Uk and are supplied a code ( they must apply at a British embassy in their country they can’t just show up enter then ask permission to enter ) to show employers and landlords that they are legitimate, failure to acquire this code renders employers and landlords to great big fines.

When your claim for asylum might not be considered
Your claim might not be considered if you:

are from an EU country
travelled to the UK through a ‘safe third country’
have a connection to a safe third country where you could claim asylum
Generally, a safe third country is one that:

you’re not a citizen of
you would not be harmed in
would not send you on to another country where you would be harmed

According to the home offices own literature above you would think that folk coming from the EU would be dropped back off in the EU quickly and as inexpensively as possible, I am not heartless but there’s a limit and why make these rules if you are not going to stick to them they are clear cut enough.

[carliol]

The terrorist who meant to kill and injure women and children at the womens hospital is an immigrant to the UK, isn't it time these people are banned from entering the UK, I certainly think so . A few years ago we had the Manchester attack , women and children slaughted at a concert. Ban them .

If you mean all immigrants, that is not practically possible. People change countries for various legitimate reasons. In any case some of those who commit terrorist acts have been born and grown up here, living hitherto blameless lives. Some slip through the net illegally.

The key word seems to be radicalisation, increasingly due to the new phenomenon of social media. But that's another story. As Sherlock Holmes said, 'A three pipe problem'.

[bensherman]

The terrorist who meant to kill and injure women and children at the womens hospital is an immigrant to the UK, isn't it time these people are banned from entering the UK, I certainly think so . A few years ago we had the Manchester attack , women and children slaughted at a concert. Ban them .

No terrorist attacks before have been committed by recent immigrants. They have been born here in the main.
This man applied years ago for asylum and was denied.
He should have been deported. There are adequate laws already to do that.
We don't know why he wasn't.
The very term "illegal immigrant" means they have no right to be here. Or are you wanting ALL immigrants stopped?
BTW the idea that Southport is indicative of large absorption of immigrants is laughable.

[bensherman]

The press are this morning reporting that he was actually from Iraq, how can someone be living amongst us for 7 years and the authorities didn’t know where he was from.

How do you know they didn't?

[Alikado]

How do you know they didn't?

They said originally he claimed to be Syrian and they thought Jordanian.

[Alikado]

Problem is though for all the legislation ( and it’s loopholes ) that takes up to 6 costly months to process as soon as an applicant is released into our society they have help to live here ( recourse to public funds ) but are not allowed to work so when it’s time to be deported they just fail to appear/disappear, so what if they get caught what have they got to loose.

Since we came out of the EU, immigrants and migrants and citizens of the EU need permission (leave ) to enter, to remain, to live and work in the Uk and are supplied a code ( they must apply at a British embassy in their country they can’t just show up enter then ask permission to enter ) to show employers and landlords that they are legitimate, failure to acquire this code renders employers and landlords to great big fines.

When your claim for asylum might not be considered
Your claim might not be considered if you:

are from an EU country
travelled to the UK through a ‘safe third country’
have a connection to a safe third country where you could claim asylum
Generally, a safe third country is one that:

you’re not a citizen of
you would not be harmed in
would not send you on to another country where you would be harmed

According to the home offices own literature above you would think that folk coming from the EU would be dropped back off in the EU quickly and as inexpensively as possible, I am not heartless but there’s a limit and why make these rules if you are not going to stick to them they are clear cut enough.

You say it takes 6 months to process a claim, it doesn't have to, it could be an awful lot quicker if more manpower was put to the task.