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Originally Posted by Hamble
It is a Reddit thing (like Greta Thumberg time traveller theory).
I think it is about money laundering (theory) demand for mattresses (being out of proportion to demand).
Like the 'photo of a time traveller holding a mobile phone in the 1920s' pic?
I get it.
There must be a mattress shop on every corner in the US.
If they'd have said 'coffee shops' I'd be more inclined to believe it.
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Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty
Like the 'photo of a time traveller holding a mobile phone in the 1920s' pic?
I get it.
There must be a mattress shop on every corner in the US.
If they'd have said 'coffee shops' I'd be more inclined to believe it.
https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/12/1...-fan-theories/
https://www.businessinsider.com/matt...18-1?r=US&IR=T
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Originally Posted by Hamble
I'd use the publicity to sell more mattresses if I were them.
Regarding Greta being a time traveller, my theory is there are only so many faces in this world, and we all have one of them. Starting broadly, everyone has either a round, long or square face. A friend reckons it starts 'plate' or 'wolf' face. Because she has a wolf face - she looks a bit like Chrissie Hynde. Greta and I are definitely in the 'plate face' category.
I reckon there are about 40 variants after that, but we're all in there.
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It appears the dumb-bait strap lines hooked a few more lefty losers.
The other person who quoted some dumb-bait was Said and his vaccine conspiracy theory book, strange bedfellows indeed.
Some of the usual bete noirs of the left have been wheeled out to support the barmy notion and what would a Toodles post be without some loose ad hominem attack because I haven't been taken in.
Apparently, I have something of a learning disability now, what next to support this lunacy?
The rather harsh it seems truth that capitalism relies on making money at its core and an unwilling seller often makes for a bigger profit is not somethng that needs a new label by the less than gullible..
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Originally Posted by local
It appears the dumb-bait strap lines hooked a few more lefty losers.
The other person who quoted some dumb-bait was Said and his vaccine conspiracy theory book, strange bedfellows indeed.
Some of the usual bete noirs of the left have been wheeled out to support the barmy notion and what would a Toodles post be without some loose ad hominem attack because I haven't been taken in.
Apparently, I have something of a learning disability now, what next to support this lunacy?
The rather harsh it seems truth that capitalism relies on making money at its core and an unwilling seller often makes for a bigger profit is not somethng that needs a new label by the less than gullible..
Oh FGS, it isn't a 'new label'.
Just because it is painfully obvious that it is something you've never heard of before, again going back to you referring over and over to just ONE book, doesn't mean it is new. Over and over again, that single Klein book. Nor is it 'barmy left-wing conspiracy theories they belong firmly to the tin foil commies'. Unless William Rees Mogg was a 'tin foil commie'
You just didn't know a damned thing about it, so you decided it's a 'conspiracy theory'. Hence you dragging onto yet another thread.
How many times is it now you've dragged up 'Disaster Capitalism' as though I'd made it up? How many times have you looked a complete bell end attempting to sneer at something that, as a financial strategy, was William Rees-Mogg's ultimate goal?
You haven't been 'taken in'. You are just pitifully ignorant.
You think there's only one mode of capitalism. It's just capitalism, that's it. No variation. You don't know about Rhine Capitalism, Corporate Capitalism, Laissez-faire Capitalism etc, do you?
But you'll Google them. Try and do a better job than one book by Naomi Klein that actually has 'Disaster Capitalism' in the title.
None is entirely surprising, as you've no clue about the different types of socialism either. As evidenced in other threads.
Take a tip from Mark Twain: “It is better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and prove it,”.
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Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty
Oh FGS, it isn't a 'new label'.
Just because it is painfully obvious that it is something you've never heard of before, again going back to you referring over and over to just ONE book, doesn't mean it is new. Over and over again, that single Klein book. Nor is it 'barmy left-wing conspiracy theories they belong firmly to the tin foil commies'. Unless William Rees Mogg was a 'tin foil commie'
You just didn't know a damned thing about it, so you decided it's a 'conspiracy theory'. Hence you dragging onto yet another thread.
How many times is it now you've dragged up 'Disaster Capitalism' as though I'd made it up? How many times have you looked a complete bell end attempting to sneer at something that, as a financial strategy, was William Rees-Mogg's ultimate goal?
You haven't been 'taken in'. You are just pitifully ignorant.
You think there's only one mode of capitalism. It's just capitalism, that's it. No variation. You don't know about Rhine Capitalism, Corporate Capitalism, Laissez-faire Capitalism etc, do you?
But you'll Google them. Try and do a better job than one book by Naomi Klein that actually has 'Disaster Capitalism' in the title.
None is entirely surprising, as you've no clue about the different types of socialism either. As evidenced in other threads.
Take a tip from Mark Twain: “It is better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and prove it,”.
Stop whining just take it on the chin its utter nonsense and you know it
Taking potshots at me is simply making your argument even weaker.
Throwing a net over other threads to try and manufacture some general ignorance is simply more of the same old same.
The left loves grand conspiracies soon you will be talking of counter-revolutionary actions.
Capitalism is about people and it comes with a panoply of approaches to the simple idea of making money socialism exists to think of ways of spending other people's money.
Its rejected worldwide as a failure consistently.
With that failure comes a lot of disaffected people looking to apportion blame just about anywhere else.
Disaster Capitalists my arse wrote that great thinker Jim Royle.
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Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty
I'd use the publicity to sell more mattresses if I were them.
Regarding Greta being a time traveller, my theory is there are only so many faces in this world, and we all have one of them. Starting broadly, everyone has either a round, long or square face. A friend reckons it starts 'plate' or 'wolf' face. Because she has a wolf face - she looks a bit like Chrissie Hynde. Greta and I are definitely in the 'plate face' category.
I reckon there are about 40 variants after that, but we're all in there.
History is full of lookalikes.
Who USA actor does this one remind you of?
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Originally Posted by Hamble
History is full of lookalikes.
Who USA actor does this one remind you of?
Looks a bit like Jack Black to me. And a plate face
edit- just Googled Jack Black and lookalikes, found this.
Limited faces.
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Originally Posted by local
Stop whining just take it on the chin its utter nonsense and you know it
Taking potshots at me is simply making your argument even weaker.
Throwing a net over other threads to try and manufacture some general ignorance is simply more of the same old same.
The left loves grand conspiracies soon you will be talking of counter-revolutionary actions.
Capitalism is about people and it comes with a panoply of approaches to the simple idea of making money socialism exists to think of ways of spending other people's money.
Its rejected worldwide as a failure consistently.
With that failure comes a lot of disaffected people looking to apportion blame just about anywhere else.
Disaster Capitalists my arse wrote that great thinker Jim Royle.
Take what on the chin? The fact that you are utterly ignorant? Not my problem. You carry on making yourself look stupid. No skin off mine.
The 'left' loves conspiracies? Two things, the biggest believers in conspiracies on here are particularly right wing. And for a conspiracy theory to exist you need to point out where the 'conspiracy' is.
Now you've finally moved on from the one Klein book, you really should explain how the authors, including Rees Mogg, are socialists whipping up conspiracies?
All these authors writing books about an aspect of capitalism that you don't believe exists on one side, and you on the other, an ignorant fool shouting on a provincial forum. Let me see...hmm.
Where is there a possible 'counter-revolutionary action'? To what, a method of investment? A manipulation of markets? A philosophy?
Don't be ridiculous. 'Making my argument weaker'? What argument? That disaster capitalism exists? Because you know nothing about it so it can't exist? That noted academics and politicians have written about? That the assistant editor of the FT wrote several books about?
There's also https://www.thenational.scot/news/18...er-capitalism/
or https://bylinetimes.com/2019/09/23/b...riving-policy/
or even the BBC https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49898289
all seem to be labouring under the impression that disaster capitalism exists.
But your expert assessment is 'my arse'. Right.
Although I suppose when your outlook is as simplistic as 'capitalism is about making money and socialism is about spending other people's money' nobody can expect any pearls of wisdom to roll from your keyboard.
As far as socialism being 'rejected worldwide as a failure consistently is concerned, Scandinavian countries, who have wholeheartedly embraced Democratic Socialism, stand as leaders in the World Happiness index, for good mental health and general wellbeing, year after year. But you don't know the difference between 'commies' and 'socialists' and democratic socialists. In fact, you probably think I made the last one up.
The NHS is a 100% socialist construct. Are you against the NHS concept? Our education system is a socialist construct. State pension is a socialist construct. Council tax is a socialist construct. National Insurance is / was a socialist construct. The welfare system is a socialist construct. Subsidised travel, such as TFL, is a socialist construct. How many of those are you against? Would you phone a private ambulance in an emergency? Did your children get any state education? Do you have a state pension? Do you only drive on private roads? Do you pay a private contactor to remove your household waste?
No? Maybe they are all one giant conspiracy theory.
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Nobody doubts that conspiracies exist and that there have been notable ones in the past.
It is no doubt foolish to believe everything you are told. But it is equally foolish to , by default, believe NOTHING you are told.
Now we have a blizzard of them, greatly assisted by social media as millions read them and embellish them. Q Anon is at the moment the zenith...someone has managed to cobble together a whole string of them, so there's something there for everyone...a sort of Quality Street approach. When that is done they develop ways of linking them together so you can't just pick and choose, even if that was your original intention.
Let's have a look at a few of those- Trump , who was anointed by God to save America, will return- and not through an election- and will be accompanied by John F Kennedy Jr ( who, as an inconvenience, is dead).
They will then set about ridding the US of "liberals" , celebrities, and -guess what-jews. The military have been waiting for this moment and will enable it all. Covid was a device by the child-eating establishment to exert control before it happens...the vaccine is part of this evil plot.
Millions actually believe this. It is ruining families, marriages and businesses. As predicted events pass , like JFK's predicted return to Dallas a few weeks ago, they simply roll over the dates and start again.
It's an intellectual ponzi scheme. Be clear; people make a lot of money out of these things...Icke for example.
There is a fascinating group in Liverpool called Merseyside skeptics. They can afford to employ a full-time researcher who investigates controversies and scams. A recent speaker dealt with conspiracy theories and why people are prone to them ( even though the vast majority, such as 9/11 are easily debunked).
Her thought was that people find the world so turbulent and ambiguous now they would rather believe something that gives them an answer, however absurd, than tolerate the chaos. They are encouraged to see those who challenge them, as being defenders of the conspiracy ("shills") so they do not have to address the logic, reason and evidence they are offered.
She further ventured that for some this outlook resides in personality disorders, where "possession of secrets" helps people with inferiority complexes by making them feel special.
This was all rather curious and a bit sad until it escalated in the last few years into ( for example) someone deciding to drive to the Washington DC restaurant where the captured children used to "feed the liberals" were being kept in the basement. He planned to free them. He discovered the place does not HAVE a basement...
And then the harm took off big-time. It cashed in on peoples' lack of confidence during the pandemic by nurturing the anti-vax crusade. As a result many have died unnecessarily and the threat level to the rest of us is needlessly high.
God knows how we stop it. It has an amoeba-like quality to it now.
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Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty
Looks a bit like Jack Black to me. And a plate face
edit- just Googled Jack Black and lookalikes, found this.
Limited faces.
Jack Black yes.
True what you say.
How many times have you seen a person in the street and them remembered they were dead?
One strange thing that happens to me when I visit Southport is that I recognise faces as they at the time I left in my early 20's.
How impossible is that?
Does it happen to expats?
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I think you will find Trump is something of a hero to many Jews so that's another conspiracy theory in the bin.
Baby eating is almost a legal requirement in some conspiracy theories
Covid fantasies from the likes of our resident Professor is fed by dumb-bait books from wacky writers looking to earn a crust without much responsibility.
Lets be frank you couldn't write the Bible today but many millions love it.
Our own Church Of England "modernises" to suit which way the wind is blowing.
People are comforted by theories that focus their likes or dislikes the left bangs out rubbish and so do the right.
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Originally Posted by Hamble
Jack Black yes.
True what you say.
How many times have you seen a person in the street and them remembered they were dead?
One strange thing that happens to me when I visit Southport is that I recognise faces as they at the time I left in my early 20's.
How impossible is that?
Does it happen to expats?
Maybe family resemblances?
There seems to be an awful lot of folk closely related. Some surnames, such as 'Rimmer' for eg, pop up all over the area.
Or there are only 40 faces
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Originally Posted by local
I think you will find Trump is something of a hero to many Jews so that's another conspiracy theory in the bin.
Baby eating is almost a legal requirement in some conspiracy theories
Covid fantasies from the likes of our resident Professor is fed by dumb-bait books from wacky writers looking to earn a crust without much responsibility.
Lets be frank you couldn't write the Bible today but many millions love it.
Our own Church Of England "modernises" to suit which way the wind is blowing.
People are comforted by theories that focus their likes or dislikes the left bangs out rubbish and so do the right.
My missus loves eating a babys head!
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Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty
Maybe family resemblances?
There seems to be an awful lot of folk closely related. Some surnames, such as 'Rimmer' for eg, pop up all over the area.
Or there are only 40 faces
I have a work colleague who is so used to people saying "do I know you" that she has a stock reply of "If you don't it is because I just have one of those faces!"
Funnilly enough most of the time she does know them or someone they know
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