Donald Trump And GB News

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Why not, when a big chunk of Trump's support comes from a combination of barely literate morons, the religious nutjob/fantasists, white supremacists and not forgetting the armed "patriots" who are more akin to domestic terrorists than anything else.

As far as dishonest votes are concerned, the only illegal votes discovered to date are all from Trump voters, if these Republican states get their way on new laws, then any election will be decided pre election by appointed representatives.

A big chunk, what say 50% 60% ?

Why would only one side have crackpots it doesn't sound likely.



Actually the Republicans want voter ID and a voting day.

The Democrats want more postal voting.

As we know in this country postal voting is ripe for fraud.

As I said I don't doubt whatsoever that fraud gave Trump and for that matter Biden votes and I don't know who got the most fraudulent votes.

[silver fox]

A big chunk, what say 50% 60% ?

Why would only one side have crackpots it doesn't sound likely.



Actually the Republicans want voter ID and a voting day.

The Democrats want more postal voting.

As we know in this country postal voting is ripe for fraud.

As I said I don't doubt whatsoever that fraud gave Trump and for that matter Biden votes and I don't know who got the most fraudulent votes.

Why is postal voting ripe for fraud? have you got any idea as to what actually happens during the entire process of registration and actual voting? doubt it, the opportunity for fraudulent voting is much slimmer than you seem to think, certainly it is always possible for someone to twist the system, no matter what methods are used, or do you believe allegations made years ago of certain "leaders" going round communities collecting polling cards, which incidentally was disproved at the time.

This is the same rabbit hole used by Trump and his minions, the reality is that voter fraud is miniscule to non existent, there are considerably more checks than you seem to think.

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I don't think the British public are foolish enough to take note of Faker Farage again, but sadly there are enough stupid people in the USA to vote for the crook , conman, fraudster, tax dodger, liar all round pile of detritus that is Trump.

If you care to keep an eye on US politics, Biden has already done more for the people than Trump did in 4 years, what really blows my mind over these idiots in America is simply Biden's financial measures are warmly welcomed by the vast majority of people, yet they then complain that Biden is spending too much, you just can't make it up.

Certainly Biden is showing his age, but he is the closest thing they have to honesty at the moment, but the gun toting red necks still think that Trump is somehow going to be returned to the White House.

In your earlier post you said Trump looked remarkably content, of course he does, the arrogant SOB still thinks he is untouchable, or alternatively he can drag the sordid affair out long enough for him to regain the Presidency and then he can just scrub every investigation into himself and his acolytes, hopefully him, his family and half the crooks who support him are enjoying free board and lodging at the government's expense before then.

You lot would all believe in a Cinderella Pantomime.

It is all theatrics. Trump will not go to prison, the Russian connection never panned out either, Farage had a job to do and completed his contract, Biden, who has always been a step behind, is supported by Obama, he will last out for a couple of years then hand over to his counterpart. While you are all paying attention to the paid actors you are missing what is going on behind the real scenes.

[Stuartli]

Trump's claim that the Presidential election was rigged is absurd, as it would be impossible to achieve such a feat with around 150M plus votes being cast.

He worked on the basis that if he said something of that nature often enough, then it would stick in people's minds. Just shows you how gullible many Americans prove, even if the Republicans feel that they, and only they, should govern the country.

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Trump's claim that the Presidential election was rigged is absurd, as it would be impossible to achieve such a feat with around 150M plus votes being cast.

He worked on the basis that if he said something of that nature often enough, then it would stick in people's minds. Just shows you how gullible many Americans prove, even if the Republicans feel that they, and only they, should govern the country.

Of course voting is rigged. There was some vote in the UK for something or other, and votes came in from all over Europe. The Vatican city voting numbers counted more than twice the population there.

The Momentum vote for Labour involved targeting people personally and directly on the internet promising them that Labour would give them whatever in accordance with these people's ideals discovered from their personal sites. i.e. Student Loans - This was very much frowned upon in the UK at the time but is a regular voting tool in the US.

[Stuartli]

Of course voting is rigged. There was some vote in the UK for something or other, and votes came in from all over Europe. The Vatican city voting numbers counted more than twice the population there.

The Momentum vote for Labour involved targeting people personally and directly on the internet promising them that Labour would give them whatever in accordance with these people's ideals discovered from their personal sites. i.e. Student Loans - This was very much frowned upon in the UK at the time but is a regular voting tool in the US.

More rubbish from you. You must make it up as you go along.

[Desert Region]

A big chunk, what say 50% 60% ?

Hilary put it at 50%, which going by the last US Presidential Election popular vote count would mean a figure of just over 37 million people / deplorables.

Hillary Clinton calls half of Trump supporters bigoted 'deplorables'

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ed-deplorables

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Why is it seen as acceptable to denigrate people on masse so readily, Clintons terrible comments I am sure helped her demise.

Trump like Biden has an eclectic mix of supporters and certainly got some pretend soldiers but clearly not millions of them.

The so called capitol riots were a good example if he had millions of gun crazed lunatics to call on where were they?

For the few actual rioters I saw out of hundreds of thousands of people there they pinched some souvenirs and turned over some offices.

Very different to other political riots we have seen in the US recently.

[donkey22]

Why is it seen as acceptable to denigrate people on masse so readily, Clintons terrible comments I am sure helped her demise.

Trump like Biden has an eclectic mix of supporters and certainly got some pretend soldiers but clearly not millions of them.

The so called capitol riots were a good example if he had millions of gun crazed lunatics to call on where were they?

For the few actual rioters I saw out of hundreds of thousands of people there they pinched some souvenirs and turned over some offices.

Very different to other political riots we have seen in the US recently.

Why describe the riots as ‘so called’, are you casting doubt that the riots happened?
But then go on to admit you did see a ‘few actual rioters’.
What were they doing there if there was no riot?

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Why describe the riots as ‘so called’, are you casting doubt that the riots happened?
But then go on to admit you did see a ‘few actual rioters’.
What were they doing there if there was no riot?

So-called because this was the mildest insurrection I have ever seen.

For a man supported by allegedly millions of gun-toting knuckle draggers what happened?

Was there something on TV?

They forgot the date?

The overwhelming majority filed around like a museum tour.

Contrast that with the looting and burning we have seen in America recently.

Trump was charged with inciting an insurrection, I have seen more trouble at Asda on Black Friday.

To quote that old Socialist Jim Royle Riot My Ar*se.

Fat people on Statins more likely.




https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55679623

[bensherman]

GB News has an audience smaller than the welsh language channel.

Advertisers who object to the output have walked, and their remaining ones won't hang around for such a poor audience.

There is nothing new in Trump and Farage bemoaning reality. Trump has already expounded at length about the election, curiously unable to provide proof of anything he claims. Farage has had his own GB slot anyway.

So there really isn't any value in putting the two together.

[silver fox]

So-called because this was the mildest insurrection I have ever seen.

For a man supported by allegedly millions of gun-toting knuckle draggers what happened?

Was there something on TV?

They forgot the date?

The overwhelming majority filed around like a museum tour.

Contrast that with the looting and burning we have seen in America recently.

Trump was charged with inciting an insurrection, I have seen more trouble at Asda on Black Friday.

To quote that old Socialist Jim Royle Riot My Ar*se.

Fat people on Statins more likely.




https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55679623

This was a riot with the intent to stop or even overturn a democratic election, you refer to the earlier BLM disturbances, sure there were opportunists thieves and vandals among them, BUT just recall how peaceful protest marches were met with tear gas, rubber bullets, even live rounds, baton charges, fake arrests, most of which never got to court, violent reaction was not entirely surprising.

I don't defend arson and theft in any way, but show violence then don't be surprised at a violent response.

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This was a riot with the intent to stop or even overturn a democratic election, you refer to the earlier BLM disturbances, sure there were opportunists thieves and vandals among them, BUT just recall how peaceful protest marches were met with tear gas, rubber bullets, even live rounds, baton charges, fake arrests, most of which never got to court, violent reaction was not entirely surprising.

I don't defend arson and theft in any way, but show violence then don't be surprised at a violent response.

You can't possibly argue that the capitol "riot" was anything likely to stop or even overturn even a council by election.
Trump is supposed to have millions of jknuckle dragging gun toting crazies on call.
They weren't there, a small minority of trouble makers pushed their way in and thousands followed meekly even following the rope barriers.


The BLM protestors on the other hand caused trouble on a major scale and set fire to buildings and looted them.

If you were met with police ranks, tear gas and violence would you think to get a new pair of trainers,tv or phones, and set fire to innocent peoples property ?

They were met with response because they have form.

[donkey22]

You can't possibly argue that the capitol "riot" was anything likely to stop or even overturn even a council by election.
Trump is supposed to have millions of jknuckle dragging gun toting crazies on call.
They weren't there, a small minority of trouble makers pushed their way in and thousands followed meekly even following the rope barriers.


The BLM protestors on the other hand caused trouble on a major scale and set fire to buildings and looted them.

If you were met with police ranks, tear gas and violence would you think to get a new pair of trainers,tv or phones, and set fire to innocent peoples property ?

They were met with response because they have form.

I suppose when members of your community are being routinely murdered by LE because of the colour of their skin, things are bound to kick off sooner or later.

[bensherman]

You can't possibly argue that the capitol "riot" was anything likely to stop or even overturn even a council by election.
Trump is supposed to have millions of jknuckle dragging gun toting crazies on call.
They weren't there, a small minority of trouble makers pushed their way in and thousands followed meekly even following the rope barriers.


The BLM protestors on the other hand caused trouble on a major scale and set fire to buildings and looted them.

If you were met with police ranks, tear gas and violence would you think to get a new pair of trainers,tv or phones, and set fire to innocent peoples property ?

They were met with response because they have form.

That's a quite remarkable interpretation of the day's events.
Activities included erecting a gallows for the Vice President because he decided to perform his constitutional duty and not to overthrow an emphatic democratic decision.
Weapons were confiscated from people and weapons including grenades were found in vehicles parked nearby and registered to "protesters".
While Trump sat in his bunker cheering them on. The Trump who claimed to be the guardian of law and order in the US. FFS.
How do you cope in the event of encountering reality?