Donald Trump And GB News

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I can feel the hackles rising across the nations as the two pantomime baddies chat.

It is quite a coup though for a let's say fledgling broadcaster and excerpts are on other channels.

For a person who is supposed to be on his way to prison, Trump looks remarkably content.

I am supposed to be a Trump apologist but I struggle (as I always have) how he first got nominated and then elected,
but now it looks like he might stand again and this is the start of his "charm offensive"

He is it appears riding along on the backs of Bidens hopeless term.

How the hell has America not got anyone better than these two?

[donkey22]

A has been president on a has been news channel, no doubt getting interviewed by a has been presenter.

[local]

A has been president on a has been news channel, no doubt getting interviewed by a has been presenter.

Not sure about the "has been" comment being apposite.


GB News is still with us as of this afternoon.

Farage and Trump are more have done's and particularly in Trump's case how the hell did he?

Both it seems may reappear

[local]

Just short of a party political broadcast for the former President, looks like he's coming again and he only has the sick Biden to beat.

A smart Democrat party should be honing his replacement now to keep him in his palace or is that place.

[silver fox]

Not sure about the "has been" comment being apposite.


GB News is still with us as of this afternoon.

Farage and Trump are more have done's and particularly in Trump's case how the hell did he?

Both it seems may reappear

I don't think the British public are foolish enough to take note of Faker Farage again, but sadly there are enough stupid people in the USA to vote for the crook , conman, fraudster, tax dodger, liar all round pile of detritus that is Trump.

If you care to keep an eye on US politics, Biden has already done more for the people than Trump did in 4 years, what really blows my mind over these idiots in America is simply Biden's financial measures are warmly welcomed by the vast majority of people, yet they then complain that Biden is spending too much, you just can't make it up.

Certainly Biden is showing his age, but he is the closest thing they have to honesty at the moment, but the gun toting red necks still think that Trump is somehow going to be returned to the White House.

In your earlier post you said Trump looked remarkably content, of course he does, the arrogant SOB still thinks he is untouchable, or alternatively he can drag the sordid affair out long enough for him to regain the Presidency and then he can just scrub every investigation into himself and his acolytes, hopefully him, his family and half the crooks who support him are enjoying free board and lodging at the government's expense before then.

[Desert Region]

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Hilary Clinton and the DNC don't ever seem to receive the popular credit they deserve for the elevation of Donald Trump to President...


How Hillary Clinton has been playing Donald Trump, Republicans since last year

If there's one thing we've learnt from the 2016 edition of the US presidential election extravaganza, it's that there's no such thing as 'too dirty' when it comes to campaigns

https://www.firstpost.com/world/shoe...s-3048876.html


To: The Democratic National Committee
Re: 2016 GOP presidential candidates
Date: April 7, 2015

Our Goals & Strategy

Our hope is that the goal of a potential HRC campaign and the DNC would be one-in-the-same: to make whomever the Republicans nominate unpalatable to a majority of the electorate. We have outlined three strategies to obtain our goal:

1) Force all Republican candidates to lock themselves into extreme conservative positions that will hurt them in a general election;

2) Undermine any credibility/trust Republican presidential candidates have to make inroads to our coalition or independents;

3) Muddy the waters on any potential attack lodged against HRC.

Operationalizing the Strategy

Pied Piper Candidates

There are two ways to approach the strategies mentioned above. The first is to use the field as a whole to inflict damage on itself similar to what happened to Mitt Romney in 2012. The variety of candidates is a positive here, and many of the lesser known can serve as a cudgel to move the more established candidates further to the right. In this scenario, we don’t want to marginalize the more extreme candidates, but make them more “Pied Piper” candidates who actually represent the mainstream of the Republican Party. Pied Piper candidates include, but aren’t limited to:

• Ted Cruz
• Donald Trump
• Ben Carson

We need to be elevating the Pied Piper candidates so that they are leaders of the pack and tell the press to them seriously.

They Always Wanted Trump

Inside Team Clinton’s year-long struggle to find a strategy against the opponent they were most eager to face.

November 07, 2016

So to take Bush down, Clinton’s team drew up a plan to pump Trump up. Shortly after her kickoff, top aides organized a strategy call, whose agenda included a memo to the Democratic National Committee: “This memo is intended to outline the strategy and goals a potential Hillary Clinton presidential campaign would have regarding the 2016 Republican presidential field,” it read.

Eleven days after those comments about McCain, Clinton aides sought to push the plan even further: An agenda item for top aides’ message planning meeting read, “How do we prevent Bush from bettering himself/how do we maximize Trump and others?"

They wouldn’t have to work very hard at it though; the debates were the beginning of the end for the candidate Clinton’s team always thought she would face on Election Day. The day after the first debate in August, Clinton confidante Neera Tanden emailed Podesta her analysis: “Bush sucked. I’m glad Hillary is obsessed with the one candidate who would be easiest to beat Besides Trump, of course.”

“Just like everybody, I thought this was a Bush against a Clinton, that’s all it was going to be,” said former Wisconsin Governor Jim Doyle. “When I saw the first set of debates, I would turn them on in an entertainment mode to see what Donald’s going to say today. It was funny."

Clinton aides finally started to see Trump as more than a tool to destroy Bush. In fact, Mook took him so seriously that his team’s internal, if informal, guidance was to hold fire on Trump during the primary and resist the urge to distribute any of the opposition research the Democrats were scrambling to amass against him. That hoarding plan remained in place deep into 2016 as some senior aides stayed convinced that a race against Trump would be a dream for Clinton, but as others kept insisting on tweaking the long-term plans against Rubio and Cruz—convinced the GOP would ultimately coalesce around the Floridian.

Much of the original playbook was still intact: As late as the last week of October 2015, a private memo from Mook to top bundlers invoked Bush’s fundraising power. And it wasn’t until the December holiday season — when Cruz and Trump emerged as pack leaders, and Podesta was telling fundraisers in closed-door meetings that he thought the Texan would win—that the team realized it was not prepared, strategically or tactically, for what many saw as a dream scenario.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...-trump-214428/

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The financial motivation behind some of the Trump Derangement Syndrome...


The 'Trump Effect' on Cable News
JUNE 17, 2016

Donald Trump is destroying the GOP, pluralism, and all adult standards of common decency. And cable's profits are soaring.

One year ago, cable news appeared to be in its twilight. But in 2015, Fox News, CNN, and MSNBC all saw their profits surge, according to the Pew Research Project. Erik Wemple, a media columnist at The Washington Post, calls it “the Trump Effect.” Pew hailed "a ratings bump not seen in years.” In the New York Times, media critic Jim Rutenberg has depicted news organizations plastering Trump stories on every chyron and headline in a desperate attempt to win viewers. (Ahem.)

https://www.theatlantic.com/business...e-news/487472/


CNN ratings are dramatically down since Trump left office. The network lost nearly 50% of its target audience during primetime hours.

https://www.businessinsider.com/cnn-...21-3?r=US&IR=T


CNN and MSNBC Fret Over Post-Trump Future
Ratings have hit new highs, but executives and journalists at both networks are uneasy about the year ahead.

CNN and MSNBC thrived during the Trump years, reaching new heights in ratings and revenue while devoting countless prime-time hours to criticizing a White House antagonist their viewers just could not quit.

Now faced with a Trump-less future, top executives at the rival cable news networks have summoned star anchors and producers to private meetings in recent weeks, seeking answers to a pressing question: What’s next?

People at both networks know that viewers who abhorred President Trump may no longer need their nightly therapy sessions with Rachel Maddow or Don Lemon. And President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr. seems unlikely to generate the 24/7 grist of drama and scandal that resurrected cable news, taking it from a dying medium to a focal point of modern politics.

So even as CNN smashed a 40-year viewership record last month and MSNBC notched its highest ratings since its founding in 1996, journalists and executives at the networks say they are uneasy about the year ahead.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/14/b...ews-trump.html

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A has been president on a has been news channel, no doubt getting interviewed by a has been presenter.

That means Obama is a "has been" as well?! And Trump could yet be President again.

GB News is less than 6 months old so it's unlikely to have already qualified to be a has been.

Who knows what Farage could still do? He's certainly been influential and to some degree still is.

[local]

That means Obama is a "has been" as well?! And Trump could yet be President again.

GB News is less than 6 months old so it's unlikely to have already qualified to be a has been.

Who knows what Farage could still do? He's certainly been influential and to some degree still is.

It is lazy politics to denigrate the voters and the candidates.
To assume that only your "side" told the truth and those who didn't vote for you were conned and stupid.

Both Farage and Trump beat the system and triumphed against the odds, both literally had the kitchen sink thrown against them yet still were amazingly succesful.

Both profited from political arrogance, Trump with the shoe in candidate Clinton and Farage with the awful EU .

A good Democrat who listened to the voters concerns and acted on them rather than telling them whats good for them when it wasn't and Trump would have lost.

Farage profited from the EU's arrogance and they totally ignored Camerons plea for assistance.

Now they know they cocked up.

[bensherman]

They reminded me of the two old ladies Les Dawson and Roy Barraclough used to play.
The GOP know Trump is a dead weight for them but they are frightened of his influence with the knuckle-draggers they rely on.

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They reminded me of the two old ladies Les Dawson and Roy Barraclough used to play.
The GOP know Trump is a dead weight for them but they are frightened of his influence with the knuckle-draggers they rely on.

I can't say that they reminded me of two men wearing drag. Farage often seems to be pictured in the blokey setting of a pub while holding a pint of beer and grinning like a Cheshire cat.

Regarding "old" I can imagine the question of advanced years will increasingly be referenced when the 79 year old President becomes an octogenarian next year.

Regarding the chat, it was a reasonable point to make that while Trump is still banned from Twitter, the Taliban leadership remain welcome and active on Twitter.

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They reminded me of the two old ladies Les Dawson and Roy Barraclough used to play.
The GOP know Trump is a dead weight for them but they are frightened of his influence with the knuckle-draggers they rely on.

Why insult the Americans ?

74,222,958 people voted for Trump and yes I have little doubt despite his protestations that some of the postal votes for him were dishonest as well.

How in all sanity can you be so rude about so many people?

[silver fox]

Why insult the Americans ?

74,222,958 people voted for Trump and yes I have little doubt despite his protestations that some of the postal votes for him were dishonest as well.

How in all sanity can you be so rude about so many people?

Why not, when a big chunk of Trump's support comes from a combination of barely literate morons, the religious nutjob/fantasists, white supremacists and not forgetting the armed "patriots" who are more akin to domestic terrorists than anything else.

As far as dishonest votes are concerned, the only illegal votes discovered to date are all from Trump voters, if these Republican states get their way on new laws, then any election will be decided pre election by appointed representatives.