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  1. Published on: 04/01/2022 12:42 PMReported by: editor
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    Reported on 'Crimewatch Southport and Surrounding Areas' over the weekend

    I have had such a traumatic day. Went to ainsdale beach with my dogs this morning.

    A guy who was a bird watcher confronted me told me to walk my dogs in sandhills.

    He then physically grabbed me and pushed me and I was terrified.

    I have got a video and will put a pic up on all sites once I have had confirmation from police. Picture above

    I have reported it to several organisations.

    My young dog ran off and she was terrified. Took over 3 hours with loads of my friends coming out to eventually thank god find her. I was traumatized.

    Please be aware of a guy and I presume his wife on the beach and believe me next time I won't be a solitary female.






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  3. r4dent says:04/01/2022 03:23 PM
    Do not condone this guys actions in anyway.

    But several dogs and not on lead.

    As well as leaving mess the dogs could attack other animals or children.

    Not responsible behavior by the poster, no matter how well behaved she thinks her dogs are.

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  5. The PNP says:04/01/2022 03:49 PM
    Birdwatchers can be so twitchy!

  6. donkey22 says:04/01/2022 04:28 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by r4dent View Post
    Do not condone this guys actions in anyway.

    But several dogs and not on lead.

    As well as leaving mess the dogs could attack other animals or children.

    Not responsible behavior by the poster, no matter how well behaved she thinks her dogs are.
    Victim blaming. Maybe her dogs are well behaved and don’t pose any threat to children or other animals? There are parts of Ainsdale beach where dogs aren’t required to be on a lead.

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  8. r4dent says:04/01/2022 05:22 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by donkey22 View Post
    Victim blaming.
    No I'm not blaming her at all.
    I don't see her behavior as justifying the lout's action in anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by donkey22 View Post
    Maybe her dogs are well behaved and don’t pose any threat to children or other animals?
    Any off lead dog potentially poses a threat to children or other animals (and cyclists !)
    When an off lead dog bit my daughter the owner claimed that her dog hadn't done it because it was "Well behaved". She claimed it was an identical dog which was off lead in the area at the time!
    All dogs leave mess, which is also a danger to people.

    Quote Originally Posted by donkey22 View Post
    There are parts of Ainsdale beach where dogs aren’t required to be on a lead.
    The OP didn't mention that so I assumed she was not in that area. You assume she was.

    The owner let her dogs run loose in an area frequented by dog walkers and children
    I think she should reflect on how her behavior could be damaging to others.
    Last edited by r4dent; 04/01/2022 at 05:38 PM.

  9. donkey22 says:04/01/2022 05:39 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by r4dent View Post
    No I'm not blaming her at all.I dont see her behaviour as justifying the louts responce in anyway.I just think she should reflect on how her behavior could be damaging to others.
    Where in the article does it describe any behaviour that others may find ‘damaging’?
    You too are assuming she was in the area where her dog should be on a lead. You don’t know that either.
    Believe it or not, plenty of responsible dog owners do pick up their mess. It’s wrong of you to just assume she isn’t one of them.

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  11. r4dent says:04/01/2022 05:40 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by The PNP View Post
    Birdwatchers can be so twitchy!
    Did someone buy you the "Bob Monkhouse book of Jokes" for Christmas?

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  13. r4dent says:04/01/2022 05:41 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by donkey22 View Post
    Where in the article does it describe any behaviour that others may find ‘damaging’?
    She had dogs off lead.

    The dogs make mess and can attack animals and people.


    Quote Originally Posted by donkey22 View Post
    You too are assuming she was in the area where her dog should be on a lead. You don’t know that either.

    Yes that is what I said.
    I assumed one thing, you assumed another.
    Neither of us know.


  14. donkey22 says:04/01/2022 05:45 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by r4dent View Post
    She had dogs off lead.

    The dogs make mess and can attack dogs and people.
    Potentially yes, but your just assuming she doesn’t clean up after her dogs and you have no idea whether or not they’re well behaved or not.

  15. r4dent says:04/01/2022 05:52 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by donkey22 View Post
    Potentially yes, but your just assuming she doesn’t clean up after her dogs
    And you are assuming she does.

    Quote Originally Posted by donkey22 View Post
    and you have no idea whether or not they’re well behaved or not.
    Well behaved dogs can bite people. The dog that bit my daughter was, according to the owner, well behaved.

    Read about serious dog attacks and in many cases the owner describes the dog as "Well behaved".

    A dog reacts to situations. If it perceives a situation as threatening it may attack.

  16. donkey22 says:04/01/2022 06:06 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by r4dent View Post
    And you are assuming she does.


    Well behaved dogs can bite people. The dog that bit my daughter was, according to the owner, well behaved.

    Read about serious dog attacks and in many cases the owner describes the dog as "Well behaved".

    A dog reacts to situations. If it perceives a situation as threatening it may attack.
    Doesn’t alter the fact that dogs are permitted to be off lead on large stretches of the beach. Unless you have any evidence that proves otherwise or that she was allowing her dogs to leave a mess, we should assume she is a responsible dog owner like the vast majority are. Instead of slagging someone off who could be perfectly innocent, you should be venting your anger at the perpetrator of this assault and maybe show the poor woman a bit of compassion.

  17. said says:04/01/2022 06:16 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by donkey22 View Post
    Potentially yes, but your just assuming she doesn’t clean up after her dogs and you have no idea whether or not they’re well behaved or not.
    Sefton Dog Laws - dogs should be on a lead, dogs are not allowed in certain areas of the Southport and Ainsdale beach and dogs should be kept away from birds and wildlife.

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  19. donkey22 says:04/01/2022 06:25 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    Sefton Dog Laws - dogs should be on a lead, dogs are not allowed in certain areas of the Southport and Ainsdale beach and dogs should be kept away from birds and wildlife.
    Another one just assuming she was on the small stretch of beach where dogs aren’t allowed? No one ever heard of innocent till proven guilty?
    You should get a dog, it might bring some joy into your soulless existence.
    Ban been lifted has it?

  20. justbecause says:04/01/2022 07:16 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by donkey22 View Post
    Potentially yes, but your just assuming she doesn’t clean up after her dogs and you have no idea whether or not they’re well behaved or not.
    *you’re* as you’re always very quick to correct other posters errors.

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  22. donkey22 says:04/01/2022 08:20 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by justbecause View Post
    *you’re* as you’re always very quick to correct other posters errors.
    Maybe you should also consider getting a pet? Would give you something to do instead of spending your days being a sad old troll.


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