Carte Blanche to vandals

[Hamble]

Only after the event, previous local campaigns had had no effect.

There were 3 schools bearing his name(and money)

Colston primary school changed its name in 2018 after a consultation with parents and children, and Colston’s girls’ school decided this year to change its name to Montpelier high school.

A fee-paying school in Bristol named after the slave trader Edward Colston is to change its name after a consultation attracted thousands of responses from the school and wider community.
Colston’s school is the last educational institution in Bristol to bear Edward Colston’s name.

[Desert Region]

It was by virtue of the African leaders that people were sold into slavery. The slave trade SAVED many Africans - for at that time, famine, wars, banditry and disease was rife among the people. When slaves were brought to the UK, they had a better standard of living than our own people on the streets. There are STILL slave traders in Africa today.

Careful now - you'll be banned again for racist comments.

You're right-wing and racist, which makes you liable to be banned.

If you're left-wing and racist on QLocal, well that, increasingly obviously, is just fine.

QLocal forum, a home for left-wing and progressive racists. Carte blanche for them, indeed. Racists are often called "scum". The irony of those posters loudly championing taking direct action against racism, while continuing to be hypocritical, silent cowards who are apologists, supportive or complicit with the racism of select posters on the threads on this forum.

Hardly surprising the forum is dying off.

[Alikado]

There were 3 schools bearing his name(and money)

Colston primary school changed its name in 2018 after a consultation with parents and children, and Colston’s girls’ school decided this year to change its name to Montpelier high school.

A fee-paying school in Bristol named after the slave trader Edward Colston is to change its name after a consultation attracted thousands of responses from the school and wider community.
Colston’s school is the last educational institution in Bristol to bear Edward Colston’s name.

Would any of this happened without the demo and the statue being pulled down?
I very much doubt it.

[local]

Trying to untangle slavery from our past and present the reality of it is welcomed by me as many other ills of the past could be aired.

Southport benefitted if that's an appropriate word.

So far we get a very distorted view with little balance.

It would I fear soon be buried by those who don't want the truth.

The courts have done our society no favours by allowing wanton destruction to go unpunished.

The "Colston Defence" has now entered the reference books.

What next as the days lengthen and the weather warms for the woke activists emboldened by their get out of jail cards.

Thankfully their outrage is currently tempered by cold weather.

Perhaps we should look at our town and assess the likely targets?

[Kippax]

Would any of this happened without the demo and the statue being pulled down?
I very much doubt it.

Yes it would. And it had already started.

Colston's Primary School had already opted to drop the name, becoming Cotham Gardens Primary School in September 2018.

Well before the statue was pulled down.

[Hamble]

Would any of this happened without the demo and the statue being pulled down?
I very much doubt it.

They would -look at the dates.

Plus
Quote
"In April 2017, the charity that runs the venue known at the time as the Colston Hall, the Bristol Music Trust,[46] announced that it would drop the name of Colston when it reopened after refurbishment in 2020. There had been protests and petitions calling for a name change and some concertgoers and artists had boycotted the venue because of the Colston name.[47] Following the decision, petitions to retain the name of Colston reached almost 10,000 signatures, though the charity confirmed that the name change would go ahead.[48] The hall was renamed as the Bristol Beacon in September 2020, after three years of consultation."
Wiki

Peaceful public protest did work.
Bristol Council remained stubborn and deaf to appeals.

[Hamble]

Trying to untangle slavery from our past and present the reality of it is welcomed by me as many other ills of the past could be aired.

Southport benefitted if that's an appropriate word.

So far we get a very distorted view with little balance.

It would I fear soon be buried by those who don't want the truth.

The courts have done our society no favours by allowing wanton destruction to go unpunished.

The "Colston Defence" has now entered the reference books.

What next as the days lengthen and the weather warms for the woke activists emboldened by their get out of jail cards.

Thankfully their outrage is currently tempered by cold weather.

Perhaps we should look at our town and assess the likely targets?

What about restorative justice in the form of fines or community service
towards the proposed Museum of Abolition?

[sandGroundZero]

Trying to untangle slavery from our past and present the reality of it is welcomed by me as many other ills of the past could be aired.
…

local, concentrate on untangling your syntax, first

[Alikado]

They would -look at the dates.

Plus
Quote
"In April 2017, the charity that runs the venue known at the time as the Colston Hall, the Bristol Music Trust,[46] announced that it would drop the name of Colston when it reopened after refurbishment in 2020. There had been protests and petitions calling for a name change and some concertgoers and artists had boycotted the venue because of the Colston name.[47] Following the decision, petitions to retain the name of Colston reached almost 10,000 signatures, though the charity confirmed that the name change would go ahead.[48] The hall was renamed as the Bristol Beacon in September 2020, after three years of consultation."
Wiki

Peaceful public protest did work.
Bristol Council remained stubborn and deaf to appeals.

So would it have happened without the protess? NO

[Alikado]

Trying to untangle slavery from our past and present the reality of it is welcomed by me as many other ills of the past could be aired.

Southport benefitted if that's an appropriate word.

So far we get a very distorted view with little balance.

It would I fear soon be buried by those who don't want the truth.

The courts have done our society no favours by allowing wanton destruction to go unpunished.

The "Colston Defence" has now entered the reference books.

What next as the days lengthen and the weather warms for the woke activists emboldened by their get out of jail cards.

Thankfully their outrage is currently tempered by cold weather.

Perhaps we should look at our town and assess the likely targets?

It's not the fault of the courts it is the fault of the Lawmakers making an impossible law, The DPP for bringing a weak case or wrong charges or the Prosecution for the presentation of the case.

[sandGroundZero]

Trying to untangle slavery from our past and present the reality of it is welcomed by me as many other ills of the past could be aired.
Southport benefitted if that's an appropriate word.
So far we get a very distorted view with little balance.
It would I fear soon be buried by those who don't want the truth.
The courts have done our society no favours by allowing wanton destruction to go unpunished.
The "Colston Defence" has now entered the reference books.
What next as the days lengthen and the weather warms for the woke activists emboldened by their get out of jail cards.
Thankfully their outrage is currently tempered by cold weather.
Perhaps we should look at our town and assess the likely targets?

local, be good enough to elaborate on your assertion "Southport benefitted" from slavery.
Agitation to end the slave trade in the 18^th century coincided with Southport's beginnings. The Slave Trade Act of 1807 followed by the Slavery Abolition Law of 1833 surely indicate that Southport could have benefitted only very indirectly, if at all.

Southport circa 1848 — Lancashire Sheet LXXV

Granted, Liverpool had profitted from the export of African slaves to North America and the Caribbean. Southport eventually became desirable residential retreat for well-heeled Liverpool families some of whom possibly inherited wealth accruing from the slave trade. Still, …?

[Hamble]

So would it have happened without the protess? NO

Eventually yes.
Protest does not have to involve mob violence and criminal damage.

Read the whole back story.

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/b...edward-4211771

[Kippax]

So would it have happened without the protess? NO

Yes, it was already happening long before anyone had heard of Black Lives Matter or their protest that ended with the statue being toppled.

[salus.populi]

local, be good enough to elaborate on your assertion "Southport benefitted" from slavery.
Agitation to end the slave trade in the 18^th century coincided with Southport's beginnings. The Slave Trade Act of 1807 followed by the Slavery Abolition Law of 1833 surely indicate that Southport could have benefitted only very indirectly, if at all.

Southport circa 1848 — Lancashire Sheet LXXV

Granted, Liverpool had profitted from the export of African slaves to North America and the Caribbean. Southport eventually became desirable residential retreat for well-heeled Liverpool families some of whom possibly inherited wealth accruing from the slave trade. Still, …?

I was under the impression from various written histories of the town that it was more the wealthy of Manchester who moved to Southport rather than those from Liverpool who already had their seaside retreats at Crosby and New Brighton

[sandGroundZero]

I was under the impression from various written histories of the town that it was more the wealthy of Manchester who moved to Southport rather than those from Liverpool who already had their seaside retreats at Crosby and New Brighton

"the wealthy of Manchester" did move, often, to Southport. Manchester's cotton manufacturers and traders could perhaps be said to have benefitted from slavery and in time exploitation of former slaves in that cotton was imported from the southern states (plus of course, Egypt and India). So, there is at least grounds for stating:

Southport benefitted if that's an appropriate word.

That being so,

Trying to untangle slavery from our past and present the reality of it is welcomed by me as many other ills of the past could be aired.
Southport benefitted if that's an appropriate word.
…

…once you untangle the syntax

…could conceivably implicate Southport in slavery. But then, why should Southport be exempt?

Reading the Observer:

Colston protester says Tories are misusing their acquittals to fan flames of culture war

Rhian Graham, cleared of criminal damage for her part in toppling the statue …
Photograph: Karen Robinson/the Observer

Q Local Southport forum is embroiled in culture war !
But does that mean vandals will be looking for Southport slavery memorials to desecrate?
I think not.