Cycle Lanes Scrapped

[The PNP]

This is precisely why you get so much stick, just look through history at human transport, started with humans dragging heavy stuff around on rollers or skids, then came the wheel, ox carts, horse drawn private, public and commercial transport, steam powered transport, then the internal combustion engine and electricity, only electric and combustion engines have survived, at NO time has the bike been any more than peripheral.

Bikes have been in use for very local personal transport and leisure, end of they have never at any time been a practical transportation for either goods or people over anything but the shortest distance.

Yet with you the bike and use of is like some sort of Holy Grail, it isn't never has been, never will be, of course transportation will continue to change and evolve, hopefully for the better, the bike will continue more or less as now, but again you would reduce access in towns, cities, indeed everywhere just to accommodate a minority use

Ah, but that was before....In case you hadn't noticed, bikes just got electrified. Nobody needs legs like tree-trunks to cover 50miles with ease nowadays. All that's missing, is the safe infrastructure to ride them on!

[silver fox]

Ah, but that was before....In case you hadn't noticed, bikes just got electrified. Nobody needs legs like tree-trunks to cover 50miles with ease nowadays. All that's missing, is the safe infrastructure to ride them on!

Oh I see these electrified bikes come with security, protection against the elements, the ability to transport anything more than one person, so cycling has become easier, thought one of your mantras was the exercise benefit???????

[The PNP]

I'll agree with you when you stop supplying stinky, polluting wood burning stoves, you do realise I hope, that wood burners are now recognised as a major polluter, far from your clean renewable mantra.

Devices that run on #renewable energy are just that....#renewable devices. Re particulate emissions, that depends entirely on the stove - just as with cars, they vary greatly. Whatever the pros and cons of a stove, they emit nothing several months of the year. Whereas stinky old-school cars do it 365days of the year - time we got shut of 'em, lol!

[silver fox]

Devices that run on #renewable energy are just that....#renewable devices. Re particulate emissions, that depends entirely on the stove - just as with cars, they vary greatly. Whatever the pros and cons of a stove, they emit nothing several months of the year. Whereas stinky old-school cars do it 365days of the year - time we got shut of 'em, lol!

You have no real case, apart from your own interests, there are many things we need to get rid of and hopefully change and evolution will continue just as it has done for centuries, but how can defend the indefensible?

[The PNP]

Oh I see these electrified bikes come with security, protection against the elements, the ability to transport anything more than one person, so cycling has become easier, thought one of your mantras was the exercise benefit???????

There are some that have a 'tracker' system as standard, if that's what you want. After-market alarms and trackers are also available at reasonable cost.Even protection from the elements can be had. Electric cargo-bikes exist now, for both private and commercial use, not to mention electric rickshaws!

Btw, all electric bikes can be set to provide as much - or as little - assistance as you require, so exercise as much or as little as the fancy takes you.

[justbecause]

Devices that run on #renewable energy are just that....#renewable devices. Re particulate emissions, that depends entirely on the stove - just as with cars, they vary greatly. Whatever the pros and cons of a stove, they emit nothing several months of the year. Whereas stinky old-school cars do it 365days of the year - time we got shut of 'em, lol!

Would you also advocate getting rid of stinky old-school vans and motorhomes? Hmm, thought not.

[The PNP]

Would you also advocate getting rid of stinky old-school vans and motorhomes? Hmm, thought not.

Anything that burns fossil-fuel (inc gas fires/gas central heating) has to go.....In my own case, for personal transport I run an electric vehicle (and ride bikes). The motorhome will be sold at some point, meanwhile it's stored under cover around 10months per year - emitting nothing at all.

Btw, the works vehicles will also be gone in the not too distant future, i.e. when I retire from the industry.

[MICK/GILLY]

I think I have burned more electric this week on my phone arguing against cycle lanes than I have burned fuel in my car, anyway it was a nice dream for some but the majority and common sense have spoken and this thread was done days ago when it was announced that plans would not go any further and things should return to normal you can say what you want after that .

[The PNP]

I think I have burned more electric this week on my phone arguing against cycle lanes than I have burned fuel in my car, anyway it was a nice dream for some but the majority and common sense have spoken and this thread was done days ago when it was announced that plans would not go any further and things should return to normal you can say what you want after that .

At end of day, local cyclists will be no worse off than they were before. Whilst as a windfall, further South in the Borough, riders will gain an unexpected upgrade to the Formby Bypass cycle-paths. They could certainly do with it, particularly at junction and roundabouts, where they tend to fade out to nothing - dumping riders into the live traffic!

[MICK/GILLY]

Yea it will be good for the few that use the cycle paths so at least ten people will be happy .

[silver fox]

Yea it will be good for the few that use the cycle paths so at least ten people will be happy .

That many???????

[Stuartli]

.In my own case, for personal transport I run an electric vehicle (and ride bikes).

But you've never actually detailed what "electric" vehicle you own - it could be an electric bicycle for all we know, but you deviously avoid any semblance of providing a clue as to what you have.

[Stuartli]

Ah, but that was before....In case you hadn't noticed, bikes just got electrified. Nobody needs legs like tree-trunks to cover 50miles with ease nowadays. All that's missing, is the safe infrastructure to ride them on!

...or the several hundreds of pounds to fork out to actually own one....

[Stuartli]

3% of trips made by bike? It defies logic that bikes make up such a tiny percentage, when they're recognised to be the most efficient form of transport known to man..Rainy days aside, what could possibly be keeping the UK figure so low - don't suppose it's the fear of being knocked off in traffic by any chance?

In answer to your question, no.

Perhaps you should read this link - you might end up more knowledgeable than you have up to now?

https://www.cyclinguk.org/statistics

[The PNP]

But you've never actually detailed what "electric" vehicle you own - it could be an electric bicycle for all we know, but you deviously avoid any semblance of providing a clue as to what you have.

I have never posted 'details' of any vehicles I, or the business own, for obvious reasons. Some have speculated (wrongly), i.e. 'rusty smokey old van/s', etc. Possibly hoping I'll respond with a denial and give the game away, by countering with identifiable details, like makes, models, year, etc. But no, that electric vehicle isn't a bicycle.