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[local]

Another prediction of mine (and numerous others) becomes reality. I.e. LEAVERS blaming the EU for paperwork problems and delays at our ports post-leaving - duh!

N.B. Let's not lose sight of the fact that none of this would even be happening, had we remained!

So who do you think is responsible for slow processing it's not as if they didn't know it was going to happen.

EU companies are suffering never mind us.

[The PNP]

So who do you think is responsible for slow processing it's not as if they didn't know it was going to happen.

EU companies are suffering never mind us.

Yes it's a shame, but there you go. As we knew full-well when we left, non-EU countries can't just ship stuff into the EU like so....Everything on a truck/in a container has to be listed, appropriate customs clearances obtained (or refused) - and fees paid, before it can be permitted roll on EU soil....Responsibility lies solely with the people who took us out, i.e. LEAVERS!!

[silver fox]

Dreadful, all those EU companies held up trying to do business with one of their biggest customers delayed by poor performance.

Isn't it about time the EU got its act together or more likely Macron as with many other things.

Might I point out that the same problems are not at other entry points into the EU or are we not supposed to notice that and think it's all down to Brexit.


The Thales group have an answer.

You really are totally infected with the Brexit virus, don't forget, WE LEFT THE EU, now with that in mind, the changes in export regulations were known, we knew it was coming and WE aren't ready, as per usual in your mind any hiccups, delays or problems are the fault of the EU, France, Macron, surprised you haven't managed to work Corbyn, Labour or Uncle Tom Cobley in as being at fault as well.

Other countries moving goods into the EU have long had their act together, we haven't, simple really.

You post vacuous opinion pieces as glorious Brexit triumphs, which they aren't, yet miss the best good news out today, try Britishvolt, a company setting up to produce batteries for electric cars has received government backing, can now start on building a new factory in the North East, but of course this has absolutely sod all to do with Brexit, but is very important, no make that essential if car production is to continue in the UK.

You see I don't decry good news, but do decry irrelevant false praise for Brexit.

[silver fox]

So who do you think is responsible for slow processing it's not as if they didn't know it was going to happen.

EU companies are suffering never mind us.

We are the ones responsible, it has been known for long enough that we didn't have the systems in place, didn't have the staff to deal with trucks at ports, didn't have customs or border control people in sufficient numbers.

How the hell we can't be ready for something we created is pathetic.

[local]

We are the ones responsible, it has been known for long enough that we didn't have the systems in place, didn't have the staff to deal with trucks at ports, didn't have customs or border control people in sufficient numbers.

How the hell we can't be ready for something we created is pathetic.

So these extra staff were appointing would you want them to wear UK or French Uniforms?

[bensherman]

The car battery saga is a good example of the gloss being desperately applied to what is actually another festering Brexit problem.
To have any chance of selling our cars into the EU we will have to meet rules about the proportion of the item being manufactured in the UK.
And I would be happy to explain why the EU makes that condition.
As the battery is such a large proportion of the cost of an EV in effect only cars with a UK-produced battery will qualify.
At the moment our battery-making capacity is so low if the rules were in effect now a few hundred thousand more would join the Brexit loss jobs pile.
That's why your government is shovelling your money into these plants. Not some inspired choice of the UK by the manufacturers. Indeed the last few years of our membership of the EU were characterised by auto manufacturers realising that the UK was not a good place to do heavy manufacturing ( because, for example of our high energy costs), but a good place to do more high-end design work.
So unless taxpayers go on subsidising these plants they will produce batteries which are more expensive than, for example, VW Group can source.

[local]

The car battery saga is a good example of the gloss being desperately applied to what is actually another festering Brexit problem.
To have any chance of selling our cars into the EU we will have to meet rules about the proportion of the item being manufactured in the UK.
And I would be happy to explain why the EU makes that condition.
As the battery is such a large proportion of the cost of an EV in effect only cars with a UK-produced battery will qualify.
At the moment our battery-making capacity is so low if the rules were in effect now a few hundred thousand more would join the Brexit loss jobs pile.
That's why your government is shovelling your money into these plants. Not some inspired choice of the UK by the manufacturers. Indeed the last few years of our membership of the EU were characterised by auto manufacturers realising that the UK was not a good place to do heavy manufacturing ( because, for example of our high energy costs), but a good place to do more high-end design work.
So unless taxpayers go on subsidising these plants they will produce batteries which are more expensive than, for example, VW Group can source.

Have you worked out which uniform your "staff" should be wearing.


I think with your understanding you might be better not trying to explain anything about trade you are quite clearly out of your depth, as usual.

Before you embarrass yourself (yet again) you might want to look into the issue and in particular where it is and who are its partners, then you might be in a position to look at perhaps Coventry City Council who also want a factory.

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...tion-across-uk

You don't want to upset Keir do you?

[silver fox]

The car battery saga is a good example of the gloss being desperately applied to what is actually another festering Brexit problem.
To have any chance of selling our cars into the EU we will have to meet rules about the proportion of the item being manufactured in the UK.
And I would be happy to explain why the EU makes that condition.
As the battery is such a large proportion of the cost of an EV in effect only cars with a UK-produced battery will qualify.
At the moment our battery-making capacity is so low if the rules were in effect now a few hundred thousand more would join the Brexit loss jobs pile.
That's why your government is shovelling your money into these plants. Not some inspired choice of the UK by the manufacturers. Indeed the last few years of our membership of the EU were characterised by auto manufacturers realising that the UK was not a good place to do heavy manufacturing ( because, for example of our high energy costs), but a good place to do more high-end design work.
So unless taxpayers go on subsidising these plants they will produce batteries which are more expensive than, for example, VW Group can source.

That's why I said battery production is essential to continue car manufacture in the UK, yes no doubt it is going to need taxpayer subsidy certainly in the short term, I would hazard a guess that it's taxpayer funding which is enabling Nissan to start battery production for their own plant in Sunderland.

[silver fox]

So these extra staff were appointing would you want them to wear UK or French Uniforms?

Just what the hell has that got to do with anything????????????

[sandGroundZero]

The car battery saga is a good example of the gloss being desperately applied to what is actually another festering Brexit problem.
To have any chance of selling our cars into the EU we will have to meet rules about the proportion of the item being manufactured in the UK.
And I would be happy to explain why the EU makes that condition.
As the battery is such a large proportion of the cost of an EV in effect only cars with a UK-produced battery will qualify.
At the moment our battery-making capacity is so low if the rules were in effect now a few hundred thousand more would join the Brexit loss jobs pile.
That's why your government is shovelling your money into these plants. Not some inspired choice of the UK by the manufacturers. Indeed the last few years of our membership of the EU were characterised by auto manufacturers realising that the UK was not a good place to do heavy manufacturing ( because, for example of our high energy costs), but a good place to do more high-end design work.
So unless taxpayers go on subsidising these plants they will produce batteries which are more expensive than, for example, VW Group can source.

local …out of interest what, exactly, are you in favour of?

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I think with your understanding you might be better not trying to explain anything about trade you are quite clearly out of your depth, as usual.
Before you embarrass yourself (yet again) you might want to look into the issue and in particular where it is and who are its partners, then you might be in a position to look at perhaps Coventry City Council who also want a factory.
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On the face of it, Britishvolt, has more than a whiff of 1960s-style government intervention.

Is this what you see as BREXIT's pay-off?

It should (finally) sort out the Conservative party which under Johnson's premiership has been facing two ways at once. Liz Truss & Co. will have their knickers in a serious twist! It does appear to pander to former Labour voters (whose coal mining and manufacturing jobs are long gone).

[bensherman]

They are doing it because of the rules of origin and because they are desperate to keep the "Red Wall".

[bensherman]

Have you worked out which uniform your "staff" should be wearing.


I think with your understanding you might be better not trying to explain anything about trade you are quite clearly out of your depth, as usual.

Before you embarrass yourself (yet again) you might want to look into the issue and in particular where it is and who are its partners, then you might be in a position to look at perhaps Coventry City Council who also want a factory.

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...tion-across-uk

You don't want to upset Keir do you?

You don't seem to grasp how telling others they are "out of their depth" rebounds on you. I HAVE looked into it.
The result is that we are desperate to build batteries, even if they might be more efficiently built in Eastern Europe, because of the crazy TRADING position we have CHOSEN to put ourselves in.
And the tapxpayers' money pouring into these plants is a closely-guarded secret...
You foolishly started this thread and it has served to confirm yet again what a mess this is. You didn't grasp the true nature of the report you trumpeted and it went downhill from there.

[local]

You don't seem to grasp how telling others they are "out of their depth" rebounds on you. I HAVE looked into it.
The result is that we are desperate to build batteries, even if they might be more efficiently built in Eastern Europe, because of the crazy TRADING position we have CHOSEN to put ourselves in.
And the tapxpayers' money pouring into these plants is a closely-guarded secret...
You foolishly started this thread and it has served to confirm yet again what a mess this is. You didn't grasp the true nature of the report you trumpeted and it went downhill from there.

Your just making it worse,
I must admire your chutzpah though you blunder from one misunderstanding to another all the while trying to give an appearance of expertise you haven't got.

Are you a failed politician?


I forgot to mention have you worked out who needs more staff yet

I detest the way you so casually dismiss British Workers and export the jobs to Eastern Europe you really are an odious person only happy running our country down and exporting jobs.

Even when its blindingly obvious who is holding up British and European trade you blame us, its true to type for you but offensive to me.

[silver fox]

They are doing it because of the rules of origin and because they are desperate to keep the "Red Wall".

Would tend to agree, plus of course this is needed due to the position we have put ourselves in, but it is investment in manufacturing, whether this is ultimately viable investment is something we will discover later.

[silver fox]

Your just making it worse,
I must admire your chutzpah though you blunder from one misunderstanding to another all the while trying to give an appearance of expertise you haven't got.

Are you a failed politician?


I forgot to mention have you worked out who needs more staff yet

I detest the way you so casually dismiss British Workers and export the jobs to Eastern Europe you really are an odious person only happy running our country down and exporting jobs.

Even when its blindingly obvious who is holding up British and European trade you blame us, its true to type for you but offensive to me.

I'm sure bensherman doesn't need me to defend him, but nowhere does he dismiss British workers, merely states facts as they are.

Why is it blindingly obvious who is holding up trade? at what point did you not understand that leaving the EU automatically changed the rules regarding exports and imports? and it's down to us to comply with those rules.

It doesn't matter a damn what we think of the rules and regulations, we no longer have any say in them or how they are implemented, all part of the Brexit bonus.

You can hammer away all you want in your blame game with the EU, the simply blood fact is WE LEFT.