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    Strange, I think Johnson will be strengthened by the industrial action, so many things not working when everyone and his wife know that so few of our financial problems are within our or his control.

    Covid and Putin are very expensive.

    Probably why Sir Beir isn't on the picket line and doesn't want his shadow team on.

    We shall see.
    You are banking on those inconvenienced by industrial action, blaming the unions and by extension the Labour party, I know that the likes of the Mail and particularly the Express will push this narrative, (The Express has already called for the unions to be crushed), but it doesn't necessarily work like that, the general public are far more likely to lay the blame at the government's door.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty View Post
    You'd think superinjunctions wouldn't work, but there's only Private Eye brave enough to go into detail about the 'compromising position' Carrie Antoinette was in.

    And the trying to get her a £100k job at the FO that she was supremely qualified for with a BA in theatre studies. Hardly mentioned.

    I heard it was a violinist, not a music teacher. A Russian violinist, no less.

    As has been mentioned, like a dog with diarrhea. By the time they've cleared up one, another stinking mess comes squirting out.

    But yes, it's difficult to keep the truth out of social media. Again, if you've watched 'The Undeclared War' on C4, the Russian bot factories work so hard it's tricky to tell fact from fiction. Though it seems their usual MO is nothing more sophisticated than writing 'I love Brexit'.
    There seem to be several stories, the strongest about a pregnant hairdresser that has been quickly repatriated to Canada, there is also a nanny version of the story.
    Another one is the nose job was actually a vasceptomny enforced by Carrie after an affair with a 'fellow' Cabinet member.
    Yet another says the incident when the Police were called was to do with another affair with said Cabinet member.
    Also it is said that the removal van that was moving Rishis stuff out of no 11 was moving Carrie's stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver fox View Post
    You are banking on those inconvenienced by industrial action, blaming the unions and by extension the Labour party, I know that the likes of the Mail and particularly the Express will push this narrative, (The Express has already called for the unions to be crushed), but it doesn't necessarily work like that, the general public are far more likely to lay the blame at the government's door.

    I think Sir Keir is actively trying to distance himself from the strikes by his instruction to front benches to not appear on the picket lines but they aren't as clever as him and don't see the bigger picture.

    Support for strikers falls away and the people are wiser now than always to think the "guvvernment" will fix everything.

    Most people are savvy enough to know that covid and Mr Putin are the biggest drivers to inflation and the world is suffering.

    The Unions have a good point but at the wrong time.

    Boris will get a significant bounce from the strikes.


    https://yougov.co.uk/topics/transpor.../06/21/0319f/1

    Then the numbers will fall away further as people lose sympathy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by local View Post
    I think Sir Keir is actively trying to distance himself from the strikes by his instruction to front benches to not appear on the picket lines but they aren't as clever as him and don't see the bigger picture.

    Support for strikers falls away and the people are wiser now than always to think the "guvvernment" will fix everything.

    Most people are savvy enough to know that covid and Mr Putin are the biggest drivers to inflation and the world is suffering.

    The Unions have a good point but at the wrong time.

    Boris will get a significant bounce from the strikes.


    https://yougov.co.uk/topics/transpor.../06/21/0319f/1

    Then the numbers will fall away further as people lose sympathy.
    You seem to be assuming that the strikes will go on and on?
    A lot of the promised repeat strikes in the transport sector at least, have either been put on hold or cancelled because the dispute is back around the table or has been settled.
    It’s not the unions vs the government anymore like we saw in the 70’s and 80’s before privatisation. It’s private companies and operators now who hate the bad publicity and lost revenue.
    Union membership is increasing. They’re not only negotiating for better pay that will help their members during this cost of living crisis, they also ensure that health and safety regulations are being followed and improvements in working conditions as well as representation and support in disciplinary procedures and work related grievances. The general public are usually supportive of strikes. Johnson’s red wall has begun crumbling away. The public are getting sick of this tory sh*t show.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donkey22 View Post
    You seem to be assuming that the strikes will go on and on?
    A lot of the promised repeat strikes in the transport sector at least, have either been put on hold or cancelled because the dispute is back around the table or has been settled.
    It’s not the unions vs the government anymore like we saw in the 70’s and 80’s before privatisation. It’s private companies and operators now who hate the bad publicity and lost revenue.
    Union membership is increasing. They’re not only negotiating for better pay that will help their members during this cost of living crisis, they also ensure that health and safety regulations are being followed and improvements in working conditions as well as representation and support in disciplinary procedures and work related grievances. The general public are usually supportive of strikes. Johnson’s red wall has begun crumbling away. The public are getting sick of this tory sh*t show.


    You better tell the Labour Party they keep complaining that the government should settle the strikes.

    Wages are falling behind the cost of living, of that there is no doubt.




    The general public are clearly not supportive of public sector strikes once they start, you only have to look back to the firefighter's strike possibly one of the most liked sectors till their long campaign.

    The same with University Lecturers, Public sector staff and many other sectors.

    The principal seems reasonable the practice less so.

    Workers need to find a better way to protest.



    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...-b1007535.html

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    The Standard is an outlier when it comes to polls about the RMT strikes.

    The public generally support strikes.

    Telegraph

    Independent

    Mirror

    Heil

    I don't think it's a coincidence that Mick Lynch hasn't been on TV so much in the last week. Apart from that particular news cycle has moved on to the latest Tory sex offender. He's intelligent, articulate and quite frankly made whichever Ministerial stooge drew the short straw to go on TV to oppose him look like a knuckle dragging moron.

    His floor-wiping of the cockroach Gullis was a joy.

    I think the general public have enough awareness to understand what strike action has given us historically. It was unions which fought for and won a minimum wage, maternity and paternity rights, pension provision, holiday and sickness entitlements. Which has benefited every single working person in Britain.

    We are looking at the prospect of teachers, postal workers, NHS workers and more considering strike action over summer. Strikes are a last resort. If the government don't step in, it's a reality we have to face. The withdrawal of labour is often the only option. No worker wants to lose pay by taking industrial action, but I and the majority of the public support them. It's inconvenient, it might be downright annoying, but it is a last resort, not taken lightly.

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    Mick Lynch the intellectual colossus now that is funny.


    For him to parrot his pre-prepared claims is no great achievement it is after all his "specialist subject"

    Nudge him slightly off-topic and the amusement begins, should be able to wire a plug though

    If he's such a great leader and negotiator how come they need to strike?

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    Because the people they have negotiated with for EIGHTEEN MONTHS have their hands tied by the government. They daren't do anything to threaten the wedges of cash they get which drive such high salaries and dividends.
    The government wants these strikes, partly as a diversion from whatever is the latest shambles they have created.
    As for Lynch and his intellect, if that is so puny what does that say about the drones the government has wheeled out to confront him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by local View Post
    Mick Lynch the intellectual colossus now that is funny.


    For him to parrot his pre-prepared claims is no great achievement it is after all his "specialist subject"

    Nudge him slightly off-topic and the amusement begins, should be able to wire a plug though

    If he's such a great leader and negotiator how come they need to strike?
    Who said 'intellectual colossus'? I said he's intelligent and articulate.

    When did any interviewer 'nudge him slightly off topic'? Links please. I can't wait to share this 'amusement'. Should be a real hoot.

    And I don't suppose he would pontificate on subjects as quantum superposition when he's a trade union leader. As I said, he's wiped the floor with every government stooge that's been sent out as the sacrificial lamb of the day. He knows his stuff.

    As for 'should be able to wire a plug', your snobbery is showing. How pathetic. That's all a working class bloke is fit for? How detestable.

    They need to strike because the government won't negotiate. Did you actually listen to a word he said, or did you simply go completely deaf under the weight of sneering that a working class man has the temerity to stand up to your beloved government of liars, thieves and perverts?

    Reprehensible, pretentious lick-spittle. Your opinions are meaningless.

    Now, those links. I could do with a good laugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty View Post
    Who said 'intellectual colossus'? I said he's intelligent and articulate.

    When did any interviewer 'nudge him slightly off topic'? Links please. I can't wait to share this 'amusement'. Should be a real hoot.

    And I don't suppose he would pontificate on subjects as quantum superposition when he's a trade union leader. As I said, he's wiped the floor with every government stooge that's been sent out as the sacrificial lamb of the day. He knows his stuff.

    As for 'should be able to wire a plug', your snobbery is showing. How pathetic. That's all a working class bloke is fit for? How detestable.

    They need to strike because the government won't negotiate. Did you actually listen to a word he said, or did you simply go completely deaf under the weight of sneering that a working class man has the temerity to stand up to your beloved government of liars, thieves and perverts?

    Reprehensible, pretentious lick-spittle. Your opinions are meaningless.

    Now, those links. I could do with a good laugh.

    Have another read.

    Lynch was an electrician.

    Mike man of the people with his £124,000 PA specialist subject being on strike and blaming everyone else.


    "Wiping the floor" is I presume you mean you have been gullible to fall for his well-rehearsed tripe.

    It was so reassuring to hear him when he dismissed the rail users and them getting to work,or school,or hospital appointments.

    What a great example of the principled Union Leader, sod the rest whilst I get what I want.

    Sod the poor peasant workers on duff pay and no work no pay,

    I'm on plenty I don't give a toss, what a hero, what a great man he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by local View Post
    Have another read.

    Lynch was an electrician.

    Mike man of the people with his £124,000 PA specialist subject being on strike and blaming everyone else.


    "Wiping the floor" is I presume you mean you have been gullible to fall for his well-rehearsed tripe.

    It was so reassuring to hear him when he dismissed the rail users and them getting to work,or school,or hospital appointments.

    What a great example of the principled Union Leader, sod the rest whilst I get what I want.

    Sod the poor peasant workers on duff pay and no work no pay,

    I'm on plenty I don't give a toss, what a hero, what a great man he is.
    Not true. Strike pay is normally paid by the union to members on strike. The union I’m in match our lost pay pound for pound as long as we attend the picket line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by local View Post
    Have another read.

    Lynch was an electrician.

    Mike man of the people with his £124,000 PA specialist subject being on strike and blaming everyone else.


    "Wiping the floor" is I presume you mean you have been gullible to fall for his well-rehearsed tripe.

    It was so reassuring to hear him when he dismissed the rail users and them getting to work,or school,or hospital appointments.

    What a great example of the principled Union Leader, sod the rest whilst I get what I want.

    Sod the poor peasant workers on duff pay and no work no pay,

    I'm on plenty I don't give a toss, what a hero, what a great man he is.
    So he shouldn't get paid for being General Secretary of the RMT? What an odd thing to say.

    And how many times before last month have there been national strikes on the railways under Lynch's tenure?

    You so obviously have no clue why the RMT were striking. The safety of those poor rail users is at stake. In fact, you obviously have no clue about negotiation at all.

    And yes, that's the point of strikes and protests, to get noticed. People were told beforehand. Make alternative arrangements. It's unfortunate, but necessary.

    Let's face it, anyone who even remotely criticises your beloved band of perverts, thieves, liars and a-holes in the government cannot possibly be right.

    Can you show me those links where they 'Nudge(d) him slightly off-topic and the amusement begins'? After all, his interviews are all over the web. Unless you're too busy tugging your...forelock at your beloved Bunter & co.

    Come on, I could do with a bit of amusement. Links please.

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    This is a bit of a surprise. Johnson was 'unaware' of Chris Pincher's goings-on.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62029881

    Funny, that, isn't it. They always tell that story so he can act 'decisively' when it hits the fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lamparilla View Post
    This is a bit of a surprise. Johnson was 'unaware' of Chris Pincher's goings-on.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62029881

    Funny, that, isn't it. They always tell that story so he can act 'decisively' when it hits the fan.
    I can imagine there's a lot that Bunter isn't aware of. Details are for the little people.

    But 'Pincher by name, pincher by nature' doesn't sound like he was unaware of the office sex pest. Well, apart from the fact they are seemingly overrun with them.

    Quite hard to keep up. If it's not the Paedo, it's the rapist, or the grabber, or the pincher. I recall the list from a few years ago, I don't think there was a minister that didn't have some kind of warning next to their name. And they were almost saintly compared to the criminals in Bunter's bunch.

    If only we had a police force worth it's salt, half of them would be in jail by now. BJ included.

    In Pincher's case, you'd hope his local party would get rid, but he's still there so far. Quite disheartening that 40% of the electorate have no trouble with corruption, incomptetence, perverts or criminals being in power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty View Post
    So he shouldn't get paid for being General Secretary of the RMT? What an odd thing to say.

    And how many times before last month have there been national strikes on the railways under Lynch's tenure?

    You so obviously have no clue why the RMT were striking. The safety of those poor rail users is at stake. In fact, you obviously have no clue about negotiation at all.

    And yes, that's the point of strikes and protests, to get noticed. People were told beforehand. Make alternative arrangements. It's unfortunate, but necessary.

    Let's face it, anyone who even remotely criticises your beloved band of perverts, thieves, liars and a-holes in the government cannot possibly be right.

    Can you show me those links where they 'Nudge(d) him slightly off-topic and the amusement begins'? After all, his interviews are all over the web. Unless you're too busy tugging your...forelock at your beloved Bunter & co.

    Come on, I could do with a bit of amusement. Links please.


    Links to what, are you having one of your moments I suggested you re-read it obviously you didn't.

    The safety of those poor rail users


    I can only suggest you calm down.

    Your writing some real tripe.

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