So much for health & safety! Cycle Friendly scheme causes more accidents in Edinburgh

[MICK/GILLY]

I'm sure some do, particularly parents when they have younger kids with them.......Myself, I keep my speed up and 'take the lane', which prevents cars behind me squeezing past. Which also keeps me several feet away from a roundabouts side-entrances, where cars are always wanting to lurch forwards.

Have you noticed that these rules are for horses aswell but nobody is complaining about them, everyone always gives them plenty of room and goes out of their way to slow Down for them and pass them slowly, people smile at folk on horses and pull faces at motorists that might not pass them as slow as they should, I would say that if you rode a horse around kew roundabout at rush hour the whole roundabout would calm for the time it took the horse to go around, why do you think that is?.

[Stuartli]

Par for the course - a typical case of sour grapes from the motoring fraternity, who want 'their' tarmac back duh!

Let's look at a few of these apparent 'crashes':

1) Lady comes off bike due poor surface...Imagine what might have befallen her, had it still been a live traffic lane. She may well have ended up beneath a car/truck/bus!

2) Toddler and bike collide, with no mention of any harm done. Again, imagine how that kid would have fared in the same spot, when it previously contained fast-moving motor traffic.

3) Drunken motorist does a spell at the wheel and fails. I'd put the blame entirely on his stupid anti-social decision to drive drunk.

4) Hit and run (don't suppose he/she was also p****d-up by any chance?) collision with a central refuge. Strongly suggests a visit to Specsavers (and perhaps Alcoholics Anonymous)!

Here we go again with your delusional, made up impressions of what had probably happened, rather than facts.

[Stuartli]

There's quite a lot to consider, when it comes to roundabouts....For example, roundabouts are fine until traffic levels get too high. When that happens, they should be replaced with a lights-junction. An example of that is Windle Island - now a lights-junction.

Windle Island has been a lights controlled junction for as many years as I can remember and that's a long time.....

[The PNP]

Have you noticed that these rules are for horses aswell but nobody is complaining about them, everyone always gives them plenty of room and goes out of their way to slow Down for them and pass them slowly, people smile at folk on horses and pull faces at motorists that might not pass them as slow as they should, I would say that if you rode a horse around kew roundabout at rush hour the whole roundabout would calm for the time it took the horse to go around, why do you think that is?.

Probably because nobody wants their car kicked-about by a panic-stricken horse with large steel-clad hooves!

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Have you noticed that these rules are for horses aswell but nobody is complaining about them, everyone always gives them plenty of room and goes out of their way to slow Down for them and pass them slowly, people smile at folk on horses and pull faces at motorists that might not pass them as slow as they should, I would say that if you rode a horse around kew roundabout at rush hour the whole roundabout would calm for the time it took the horse to go around, why do you think that is?.

I don't think so - there would always be one idiot who would create horse-burgers.

[MICK/GILLY]

No .. the answer I was thinking of was that 99% of motorists respect horses and their riders, it’s just the done thing on the road to slow down for them. You don’t have to be the best driver in the world it’s just natural to look out for horses and slow down for them, no one hates or dislikes horses or their riders and you don’t see many self centred risk taking, motorist hating horse riders being ar5eholes .
So that’s why I think if a horse and rider should walk around the kew roundabout at rush hour the whole roundabout would slow down until the horse left it .

A horse rider isn’t daft enough to do that but if they did do it I imagine that’s the reaction that would occur .

https://youtu.be/6FOUqQt3Kg0

[justbecause]

No .. the answer I was thinking of was that 99% of motorists respect horses and their riders, it’s just the done thing on the road to slow down for them. You don’t have to be the best driver in the world it’s just natural to look out for horses and slow down for them, no one hates or dislikes horses or their riders and you don’t see many self centred risk taking, motorist hating horse riders being ar5eholes .
So that’s why I think if a horse and rider should walk around the kew roundabout at rush hour the whole roundabout would slow down until the horse left it .

A horse rider isn’t daft enough to do that but if they did do it I imagine that’s the reaction that would occur .

https://youtu.be/6FOUqQt3Kg0

Likewise, 99% of motorists respect cyclists, and no one hates or dislikes cyclists.
It just suits the mantra of the motorist hating simpleton who constantly posts vitriol which invariably consists of how every car driver is drunk, and out to wipe out every cyclist they see.

[Little Londoner]

Par for the course - a typical case of sour grapes from the motoring fraternity, who want 'their' tarmac back duh!

Sour grapes my jacksie the laughing emojis are following the "cyclists must signal as they go round". If one in a thousand cyclists indicate their intentions I'd be astonished. If they dress in black and cycle without lights at night I'm absolutely positive signals would be a brain puzzler for 90+% of the cycling population.

[Little Londoner]

Don’t you mean the outside lane

Well if you come down the inside lane on a dual carriageway onto a roundabout does it change to the outside lane on the roundabout ?, that should keep Mr Pither quiet for the rest of the day while he deliberates that problem.

[Little Londoner]

Here we go again with your delusional, made up impressions of what had probably happened, rather than facts.

Yes if his Aunty had testicles she'd be his uncle, I remember 50+ years ago there were regular Court reports in the Visiter about a drunken cyclist who used to drink in Town then making his way home to Marshside he'd go down Queens Rd when he got to Hesketh Park Mansions he would lie his bike in the middle of the road go in the phone box dial 999 and ask for an ambulance then go and lie down in the road by his bike. I can remember his name to this day but will not disclose it in respect to the sane members of his family.
If I remember correctly one Emergency Service worker fed up with his antics actually drove over his bike when pulling up at the scene.

[justbecause]

Windle Island has been a lights controlled junction for as many years as I can remember and that's a long time.....

I’ve been driving for 52 years and I’ve ever only known there to be lights there. I do remember a story from by Dad. Years ago a fire engine was travelling along the ELR in the vicinity of Windle Island, in those days, the fireman actually stood on the appliance holding on to rails. The engine was involved in a collision and I think eight of the firemen were sadly killed.

[MICK/GILLY]

Well if you come down the inside lane on a dual carriageway onto a roundabout does it change to the outside lane on the roundabout ?, that should keep Mr Pither quiet for the rest of the day while he deliberates that problem.

They shouldn’t be and now have no need to be on the inside lane ( right hand/faster/lane2 of the dual carriageway ) they should be in the cycle lane. Now there’s no reason why they should be on the inside lane of a dual carriageway or a roundabout.
This is going to not go too well, soon reports WILL start coming in of cyclists getting run into while covering/crossing exits on roundabouts not to mention drivers beeping and screaming at them, and kids are going to learn how to partake in this danger. So keep your eyes on the news and just hope there are no fatalities .

[Alikado]

They shouldn’t be and now have no need to be on the inside lane ( right hand/faster/lane2 of the dual carriageway ) they should be in the cycle lane. Now there’s no reason why they should be on the inside lane of a dual carriageway or a roundabout.
This is going to not go too well, soon reports WILL start coming in of cyclists getting run into while covering/crossing exits on roundabouts not to mention drivers beeping and screaming at them, and kids are going to learn how to partake in this danger. So keep your eyes on the news and just hope there are no fatalities .

How would they get around a roundabout without being in one of the lanes?

[MICK/GILLY]

How would they get around a roundabout without being in one of the lanes?

Walk Ideally

[The PNP]

Likewise, 99% of motorists respect cyclists, and no one hates or dislikes cyclists.
It just suits the mantra of the motorist hating simpleton who constantly posts vitriol which invariably consists of how every car driver is drunk, and out to wipe out every cyclist they see.

No - they just hate cyclists having their own safe strip of Family Friendly tarmac. So much so, they even managed to block the Councils plans for the scheme. Ensuring all riders both old and young, will have to continue taking their chances riding in live traffic - duh!