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    I could be wrong and I hope I am but …

    I don’t think they are testing nuclear missiles of these capabilities and telling the west they better think twice just for fun, as old hat as it may be I am inclined to take such a threat seriously. I’ve got a strange feeling this whole Ukraine thing is a subtle well thought out start to it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MICK/GILLY View Post
    I don’t think they are testing nuclear missiles of these capabilities and telling the west they better think twice just for fun, as old hat as it may be I am inclined to take such a threat seriously. I’ve got a strange feeling this whole Ukraine thing is a subtle well thought out start to it all.
    the new fue wasnt effective enough the vax aint acting fast enough !!!yet!!!.so its plan B.!god help us all its not a movie its here and now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamyramy View Post
    the new fue wasnt effective enough the vax aint acting fast enough !!!yet!!!.so its plan B.!god help us all its not a movie its here and now!

    Ha!Ha! Jamy - go get out your tin helmet just in case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MICK/GILLY View Post
    I don’t think they are testing nuclear missiles of these capabilities and telling the west they better think twice just for fun, as old hat as it may be I am inclined to take such a threat seriously. I’ve got a strange feeling this whole Ukraine thing is a subtle well thought out start to it all.

    Russia has no need for Nuclear weapons at present. To incorporate the use of Nuclear would be highly damaging to its own economy and it would not want that. Russia now has far superior weapons and armoury, as does China. Both have far more actual allies, while the USA has more diplomatic relations that cause a heavy drain on its economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    Ha!Ha! Jamy - go get out your tin helmet just in case.
    haha mnn if it werent so real.but yep prepared for the fallout !just sooo sick of the lies destruction of life as it should be to the innocents by those entrusted.all the years building recovering just to be for manyyet used by the few.is this what people were placed for! hey know its deep and for unenlightened a source for abuse ,but you know you reach a time on lifes journy when f/ck it youve had enough of all the crap and lies,butmost the turning upon each by those in place entrusted !that betrays the giving and striving of so many out there worthy.its wheigt many carry.x

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    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    Russia has no need for Nuclear weapons at present. To incorporate the use of Nuclear would be highly damaging to its own economy and it would not want that. Russia now has far superior weapons and armoury, as does China. Both have far more actual allies, while the USA has more diplomatic relations that cause a heavy drain on its economy.
    Yea they are testing long range missiles but don’t worry they won’t use them , oh and they put hundreds of thousands of troops all around the borders of Ukraine but don’t worry they won’t invade it was only a training exercise .

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    Quote Originally Posted by MICK/GILLY View Post
    Yea they are testing long range missiles but don’t worry they won’t use them , oh and they put hundreds of thousands of troops all around the borders of Ukraine but don’t worry they won’t invade it was only a training exercise .
    Whilst I too am concerned that the madman Putin may use nuclear force. I find it hard to accept that he is so deranged that he isn't aware that, if he does then within hours, Moscow could be laid to waste in retaliation.
    Just be yourself, no one else is better qualified!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamyramy View Post
    the innocents of ukraine my heart aches for.their gov and nzi militia no ,theyve subjude and used as sheilds .the center of world child /people trafficers ,organ harvestes ,money launderes arms dealers drug trafficking for all and i mean all our entrusted leaders.you may think britain is a bastion of trust,those days have been taken from us .now were left with nothing but decievers and usary liers in charge.putins clearing the swamp.
    So - what I take from the nonsensical drivel above is that Putrid is doing a grand job and - Ukraine is really full of naughty boys, Putrid is justified in his illegal war - including the way he prosecutes that war. Further, that all the reported atrocities are lies and fabrication and everyone in 'the West' is in on this deception.

    Keep taking the medication and - give some to Said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gazaprop View Post
    WTF !!!!!

    Ukraine wanted to join a trading partnership that more reflected its own, western leaning values.
    Ukraine wanted to carry on with democratic values, akin to those enjoyed by most of Europe - instead of following the undemocratic dictatorship model.
    Ukraine wanted to ally itself with countries that knew what they were doing when it came to matters military - rather than tether themselves to a ragtag and bobtail clueless outfit that is the Russian army.

    It was Ukraines right, as an independent free state, to pursue those aims without hindrance.
    The only person who considers these as provocative is President Putrid - oh - and you.
    Absolutely!
    Whatever country borders were in History a New Independent recognised State has the right to exist without being attacked or its Borders invaded.

    I welcome the new war crime being considered since the invasion of Ukraine.
    A crime of 'Agression' against a State will put a stop to years of attacks and defending border territories against so called 'Freedom Fighters'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MICK/GILLY View Post
    Yea they are testing long range missiles but don’t worry they won’t use them , oh and they put hundreds of thousands of troops all around the borders of Ukraine but don’t worry they won’t invade it was only a training exercise .
    Yes, I keep on reading that Putin is insane etc yet at the same time we should all be assured that he wouldn't do anything irrational such as deploy nuclear weapons!

    Inconsistent logic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alikado View Post
    Nuclear weapons are old hat now, the only use to to cause armageddon which will end in self destruction as well. The new weapon of mass destruction is the thermobaric ones causing mass destruction but not the contamination.
    Are you acknowledging the necessity of a nuclear deterrent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Region View Post
    Are you acknowledging the necessity of a nuclear deterrent?
    No, they are totally pointless now, tech has moved on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alikado View Post
    No, they are totally pointless now, tech has moved on.
    That argument doesn't make sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Region View Post
    That argument doesn't make sense.
    You can't win with nuclear weapons, you can only lose and take the rest with you, modern hypersonic and thermobaric weapons can destroy the opposition before they can do anything.

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    I have to laugh at the notion Russia has superior weapons.

    The broken-down vehicles, unexploded munitions, and the disaffected soldiers lead me to think they would be likely to blow themselves up.

    Then there's the positively barmy tactic of stretching your columns of armour across Ukraine as they broke down or simply ran out of fuel, whilst the Ukrainians picked them off.


    For a country they want, they aren't half making a mess of it for themselves.

    Then there are their losses, so great they send in mobile crematorium units.

    A large number of high-ranking officers gone as well.

    Captain Mannering would do a better job.

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