Zelensky - What do you know

[sandGroundZero]

Oh come on, another conspiracy theory?
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said | local

RT & DT

[local]

said | local

RT & DT

You may or may not realise (who knows whats going on in your head) but Said and I are on different sides of the argument.

[said]

It's a straw man argument...

https://www.reuters.com/article/fact...-idUSL2N2WI1ES

Be careful on which quotes you employ. Reuter's = CIA engine. CIA = USA, USA is Zelensky's handler, Ukraine is USA's kicking board against Russia!

[said]

No mention of his Law Degree?

Zelensky's Law Degree, if it exists - would be combined in a Business Degree - it is part of Company management.

[said]

What do we know? probably as much if not more than you do, I would do a spot of research before you continue to push pro Putin propaganda.

Your comment can easily be deflected:

Russia has long struggled with the existential threat offered by NATO and the US empire. They have opposed US imperialism…but for reasons of national survival not ideology. They have stood up against US militarism and US hegemony.

In fact in the early 2000s, for those with short memories or long agendas, Putin strove repeatedly to have Russia accepted into the Western collective, lobbying to join NATO and for “close integration” with the EU

It was only western intransigence – and NATO’s need for an “enemy” to justify its existence – that forced Russia, reluctantly, into its current stance.
People have recently started assuming Russia must be anti-globalist because it has been forced into being ‘anti-imperialist’. But this is a conflation of two different concepts.

Globalism is not a synonym for imperialism. In fact in many ways it can be seen as antithetical to US unipolar imperialism. Globalism is not and never has been an exclusively Western concept.

In fact you can probably make a better case for this as a war by globalism against the collapsing US empire, with crippling self-destructive sanctions used as a thin disguise for hastening the demise of the petrodollar and bringing us all in the West to the hallowed state of ‘owning nothing and being happy’ Just as I keep telling you.

There is a very incomplete picture of what this war means, why it was launched or how it’s progressing. A torrent of confident speculation is pouring from mainstream and alter media alike. A hundred pundits all assure us they know where the troops are on the ground, what Russia’s grand plan is and yada yada yada.

The truth is we know very little. There are few journalists on the ground out there and almost all information about the progress of and intentions behind the war come from official pronouncements or unofficial leaks.
Much of that information is either intentionally or accidentally, inaccurate or contradictory.
We have anonymous British guys claiming to be in Kiev and telling us there is no war at all. We have the few journalists working out there being escorted by one side or the other to the site of various alleged missile attacks or other violence.
We have verifiable Nazis doing unverifiable atrocities.
We have stories of “bio labs” that fit just a little too nicely into the ‘Covid’ narrative for anyone who’s on the ball. What we see is inevitably a series of tableaux stripped of context and impossible to evaluate.

All any responsible person can do at this time is wait and watch attentively and avoid the temptation to create binary heroes and villains out of the muddy and obscure reality.

[said]

What do I know? I know Russian propaganda when I see it.

This has been doing the rounds throughout May. The amounts vary. Forbes, a credible source, did verify Zelensky's net worth. It's nowhere near the batcrap amount that you're claiming it is.

I love the way you always side with the underdog How about giving us your hero Putin's net worth.

I have no idea - but I do know that Putin is sufficiently well off not to be bought by the highest bidder as Zelensky is.

[Toodles McGinty]

Your comment can easily be deflected:

Russia has long struggled with the existential threat offered by NATO and the US empire. They have opposed US imperialism…but for reasons of national survival not ideology. They have stood up against US militarism and US hegemony.

In fact in the early 2000s, for those with short memories or long agendas, Putin strove repeatedly to have Russia accepted into the Western collective, lobbying to join NATO and for “close integration” with the EU

It was only western intransigence – and NATO’s need for an “enemy” to justify its existence – that forced Russia, reluctantly, into its current stance.
People have recently started assuming Russia must be anti-globalist because it has been forced into being ‘anti-imperialist’. But this is a conflation of two different concepts.

Globalism is not a synonym for imperialism. In fact in many ways it can be seen as antithetical to US unipolar imperialism. Globalism is not and never has been an exclusively Western concept.

In fact you can probably make a better case for this as a war by globalism against the collapsing US empire, with crippling self-destructive sanctions used as a thin disguise for hastening the demise of the petrodollar and bringing us all in the West to the hallowed state of ‘owning nothing and being happy’ Just as I keep telling you.

There is a very incomplete picture of what this war means, why it was launched or how it’s progressing. A torrent of confident speculation is pouring from mainstream and alter media alike. A hundred pundits all assure us they know where the troops are on the ground, what Russia’s grand plan is and yada yada yada.

The truth is we know very little. There are few journalists on the ground out there and almost all information about the progress of and intentions behind the war come from official pronouncements or unofficial leaks.
Much of that information is either intentionally or accidentally, inaccurate or contradictory.
We have anonymous British guys claiming to be in Kiev and telling us there is no war at all. We have the few journalists working out there being escorted by one side or the other to the site of various alleged missile attacks or other violence.
We have verifiable Nazis doing unverifiable atrocities.
We have stories of “bio labs” that fit just a little too nicely into the ‘Covid’ narrative for anyone who’s on the ball. What we see is inevitably a series of tableaux stripped of context and impossible to evaluate.

All any responsible person can do at this time is wait and watch attentively and avoid the temptation to create binary heroes and villains out of the muddy and obscure reality.

If only Ukraine invaded Russia, not the other way round:

[said]

If only Ukraine invaded Russia, not the other way round:

There are many reasons why this would not have occurred.

Are you aware that many residents in Russia have family members living in the Ukraine? That people in the Ukraine have the same ethnicity as those of Russia - rather like the UK during the Irish troubles, the UK sent troops over to Ireland. Would you have said that was wrong?

[Hamble]

Zelensky's Law Degree, if it exists - would be combined in a Business Degree - it is part of Company management.

wiki says Law degree actually.

"Zelenskyy grew up as a native Russian speaker in Kryvyi Rih, a major city of Dnipropetrovsk Oblast in central Ukraine. Prior to his acting career, he obtained a degree in law from the Kyiv National Economic University. He then pursued a career in comedy and created the production company Kvartal 95, which produced films, cartoons, and TV shows including the TV series Servant of the People, in which Zelenskyy played the role of the Ukrainian president. The series aired from 2015 to 2019 and was immensely popular. A political party bearing the same name as the television show was created in March 2018 by employees of Kvartal 95."

I see your difficulty said- you have no talent and are completely flummoxed by those that have many!

[Toodles McGinty]

There are many reasons why this would not have occurred.

Are you aware that many residents in Russia have family members living in the Ukraine? That people in the Ukraine have the same ethnicity as those of Russia - rather like the UK during the Irish troubles, the UK sent troops over to Ireland. Would you have said that was wrong?

UK troops left Ireland in the 1920s.

Unless you mean Northern Ireland.

In which case if Northern Ireland was a country completely independent from us, yes.

N. Ireland is part of the UK. Ukraine is not part of Russia.

[Dirac]

Originally Posted by said
Your comment can easily be deflected:

Russia has long struggled with the existential threat offered by NATO and the US empire. They have opposed US imperialism…but for reasons of national survival not ideology. They have stood up against US militarism and US hegemony.

In fact in the early 2000s, for those with short memories or long agendas, Putin strove repeatedly to have Russia accepted into the Western collective, lobbying to join NATO and for “close integration” with the EU

It was only western intransigence – and NATO’s need for an “enemy” to justify its existence – that forced Russia, reluctantly, into its current stance.
People have recently started assuming Russia must be anti-globalist because it has been forced into being ‘anti-imperialist’. But this is a conflation of two different concepts.

Globalism is not a synonym for imperialism. In fact in many ways it can be seen as antithetical to US unipolar imperialism. Globalism is not and never has been an exclusively Western concept.

In fact you can probably make a better case for this as a war by globalism against the collapsing US empire, with crippling self-destructive sanctions used as a thin disguise for hastening the demise of the petrodollar and bringing us all in the West to the hallowed state of ‘owning nothing and being happy’ Just as I keep telling you.

There is a very incomplete picture of what this war means, why it was launched or how it’s progressing. A torrent of confident speculation is pouring from mainstream and alter media alike. A hundred pundits all assure us they know where the troops are on the ground, what Russia’s grand plan is and yada yada yada.

The truth is we know very little. There are few journalists on the ground out there and almost all information about the progress of and intentions behind the war come from official pronouncements or unofficial leaks.
Much of that information is either intentionally or accidentally, inaccurate or contradictory.
We have anonymous British guys claiming to be in Kiev and telling us there is no war at all. We have the few journalists working out there being escorted by one side or the other to the site of various alleged missile attacks or other violence.
We have verifiable Nazis doing unverifiable atrocities.
We have stories of “bio labs” that fit just a little too nicely into the ‘Covid’ narrative for anyone who’s on the ball. What we see is inevitably a series of tableaux stripped of context and impossible to evaluate.

All any responsible person can do at this time is wait and watch attentively and avoid the temptation to create binary heroes and villains out of the muddy and obscure reality.


How is it possible for one poster to be so wrong about nearly everything?

It's extraordinary...

[local]

Give us a clue Prof, who is Nato threatening and or invading?



We do know exactly where Russian forces are with Satellite and drone images and we certainly know where the dead ones are.


We particularly know of the places they have lost, Russia's mighty war machine is a myth.

They have invaded with Lada's and Moskovitches maintained by thieves and the disaffected.

Their weaponry is so poor they have literally missed military target after target.

To boot they're led by a fantasist who thinks "God" is on his side in the shape of Patriarch Kirill sporting his trinkets bought off the back of the theft of the nation's assets.

[said]

Give us a clue Prof, who is Nato threatening and or invading?



We do know exactly where Russian forces are with Satellite and drone images and we certainly know where the dead ones are.


We particularly know of the places they have lost, Russia's mighty war machine is a myth.

They have invaded with Lada's and Moskovitches maintained by thieves and the disaffected.

Their weaponry is so poor they have literally missed military target after target.

To boot they're led by a fantasist who thinks "God" is on his side in the shape of Patriarch Kirill sporting his trinkets bought off the back of the theft of the nation's assets.

Love to know where you get your information from? Is it all these people who are touring around the Ukraine hoping for a selfie?

[said]

How is it possible for one poster to be so wrong about nearly everything?

It's extraordinary...[/QUOTE]

Correct me if I am wrong - but was it not you who mentioned a straw man argument??? Do me and everyone else a favour, if you can criticise any or even all of what I have posted - then do so with explanations - don't leave everyone waiting for the climax!

[said]

wiki says Law degree actually.

"Zelenskyy grew up as a native Russian speaker in Kryvyi Rih, a major city of Dnipropetrovsk Oblast in central Ukraine. Prior to his acting career, he obtained a degree in law from the Kyiv National Economic University. He then pursued a career in comedy and created the production company Kvartal 95, which produced films, cartoons, and TV shows including the TV series Servant of the People, in which Zelenskyy played the role of the Ukrainian president. The series aired from 2015 to 2019 and was immensely popular. A political party bearing the same name as the television show was created in March 2018 by employees of Kvartal 95."

I see your difficulty said- you have no talent and are completely flummoxed by those that have many!

I love it when facts don't add up. Kvartal 95 was founded in 1995. Not by Zelensky nor his partner Serhiy Shefir - but by Boris Shefir.
Boris Shefir is the father of Sehiy Shefir.

• Born
  Kryvyi Rih , Ukraine
  
  
• Date of birth
  May 14,1960
  
  
• Age
  62
  
  
• Gender
  Male
  
  
• Zodiac
  Taurus
  
  
• Parents
  Nachman ShefirRita Shefir
  
  
• Siblings
  Sergey ShefirSergey Shefir
  
  
• Jobs
  Film Producer
  Screenwriter
  Television producer
  
  
  
• Movies/Shows
  Servant of the People (2015 – 2019)
  Servant of the People 2 (2016)
  8 New Dates (2015)
  Svaty (2008 – 2012)
  I'll Be Around (2012)
  Office Romance. Present Day (2011)
  No Love in the City (2009)
  1+1 udoma
  1+1 udoma
  
  
  
• Founded
  Studio Kvartal-95
  
  
• Production company
  Studio Kvartal-95
  
  
• Date of Reg.
  2019-05-29
  
  
• Date of Upd.
  2022-03-30
  
  
• ID
  746443
  
  
  
  The University Zelensky is said to have attended does not do stand alone Law Degrees, it is a Business School University.
  
  I don't give a flying F.. what anyone else has achieved, so long as it is the truth and it is honourable. Zelensky is a puppet of the USA!