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    Quote Originally Posted by bensherman View Post
    This is a superb summary of the mess Sunak is in
    https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid...54540614657776

    I could not argue with anything he said last night. The problem is his failure to speak out against Anderson and Braverman. His speech might have carried more impact if he had delivered it first to his own party.


    It might have been better if he had targeted it at a Labour party that has so many supporters of hate and division rather than those that point it out.

    Anderson and Braverman are simply pointing out what Rochdale showed us that the people the Labour party have targeted for years are hate driven racists, where women are second class citizens and children are trading pieces.

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    Apparently grammar is too

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    Quote Originally Posted by bensherman View Post
    Apparently grammar is too
    Sorry Teacher, it was ponded out on my phone, but it is good to see you only find fault with the grimmer

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    "The UK goods trade has suffered its steepest five-year fall on record, highlighting how Brexit has reduced flows both into and out of Britain, say economists. The volume of UK goods imports and exports was 7.4 per cent smaller in 2023 than in 2018, the largest five-year decline in goods trade since comparable records began in 1997, according to Financial Times calculations of data published by the Office for National Statistics on Friday".

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    About an hour after Sunak's speech last night Truss and Clarke-Smith welcomed Anderson to a Tory Party event. Nice.

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    There is an EU joint development programme for nuclear fusion called ITER.

    Nuclear fusion- and I am NOT a physicist-is , I understand, a technology which eliminates much of the risk of existing nuclear power generation, but importantly, does not create radioactive waste.

    Having left the EU we were not entitled to belong to the programme, but have been invited to join. We turned it down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bensherman View Post
    There is an EU joint development programme for nuclear fusion called ITER.

    Nuclear fusion- and I am NOT a physicist-is , I understand, a technology which eliminates much of the risk of existing nuclear power generation, but importantly, does not create radioactive waste.

    Having left the EU we were not entitled to belong to the programme, but have been invited to join. We turned it down.
    UK turned it down? Not surprised. It would mean paying more money into the EU for probably a hundred years or so. They are nowhere near ready to produce domestic energy with fusion since they have to find out how to obtain sufficient energy from it than is greater than the energy required in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    UK turned it down? Not surprised. It would mean paying more money into the EU for probably a hundred years or so. They are nowhere near ready to produce domestic energy with fusion since they have to find out how to obtain sufficient energy from it than is greater than the energy required in.


    It was a very sensible move for the UK.

    Dragging the EU with it would have really held us back, it is one of those areas where we do have some fantastic people.

    The worry is a new government might creep us back in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    UK turned it down? Not surprised. It would mean paying more money into the EU for probably a hundred years or so. They are nowhere near ready to produce domestic energy with fusion since they have to find out how to obtain sufficient energy from it than is greater than the energy required in.
    Nothing to do with the EU it is an International Project with the likes of Japan, Korea, China, India and the US.
    Never mind we can always buy in the technology when the rest of the world is already using it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by local View Post
    It was a very sensible move for the UK.

    Dragging the EU with it would have really held us back, it is one of those areas where we do have some fantastic people.

    The worry is a new government might creep us back in.
    What a foolish observation.

    It's not as if we don't have any history to learn from. We stayed out of Galileo, and wasted fortunes on trying to create our own alternative but failed.

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    See the ipsos poll yesterday

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...ws/ar-BB1ji9Gd

    Desperate stuff for the Tories. Wholly deserved.

    This by some projections leads to a Labour majority of over 100; the wipeout of the Tories with less than 130 seats; Reform actually doing worse than UKIP did in 2019; and independents not on the map.

    I'd be surprised if it came out like that but a Labour majority of 70 wouldn't surprise me. With that majority I would expect Starmer to venture an EU referendum by about the second year,

    I think this would lead to an extremist takeover of the Tory party with Braverman and Anderson slugging it out, while the equally unpleasant Badenoch would try to claim to be the moderate choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bensherman View Post
    See the ipsos poll yesterday

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...ws/ar-BB1ji9Gd

    Desperate stuff for the Tories. Wholly deserved.

    This by some projections leads to a Labour majority of over 100; the wipeout of the Tories with less than 130 seats; Reform actually doing worse than UKIP did in 2019; and independents not on the map.

    I'd be surprised if it came out like that but a Labour majority of 70 wouldn't surprise me. With that majority I would expect Starmer to venture an EU referendum by about the second year,

    I think this would lead to an extremist takeover of the Tory party with Braverman and Anderson slugging it out, while the equally unpleasant Badenoch would try to claim to be the moderate choice.
    30p Lee won't be slugging it out he's jumped ship and got into bed with Nigel Farage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alikado View Post
    30p Lee won't be slugging it out he's jumped ship and got into bed with Nigel Farage
    "I'm not a racist or an extremist, I was just voicing my concerns about illiberalism," says man who then promptly jumps ship and joins racist, extremist, illiberal party.
    Watching this shower self implode is almost as hilarious, as watching the royal’s current debacle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donkey22 View Post
    "I'm not a racist or an extremist, I was just voicing my concerns about illiberalism," says man who then promptly jumps ship and joins racist, extremist, illiberal party.
    Watching this shower self implode is almost as hilarious, as watching the royal’s current debacle.


    Racist ? Examples?

    Extremist? Examples?

    Illiberal maybe, so why do you make this tosh up.

    Do you do it to gain credence with the groupthick?

    Richard Tice will mop up very few votes no doubt he has little traction with the public and most haven't the foggiest who he is.

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