The budget

[said]

I forgot to educate you (or at least try) on UK tax

How has the EU shaped the UK’s tax landscape?


In 1973 when the UK acceded to the EU the new legal order profoundly affected the interpretation of UK statutes including tax statues. The infringement procedure has often led to changes in UK law although not always to the extent initially requested. Corporation tax has become the best-known area of EU influence with litigation over dividends tax credits cross-border tax relief and controlled foreign companies. EU law necessarily governs VAT although member states are given considerable discretion both by the legislator and the courts. The doctrine of abuse of right derives from the EU legal order but the UK has played a major role in developing it. EU law has affected the activity of tax authorities the structure of the system of appeals and the permitted structure of taxes as well as substantive tax law. HMRC has become used to...


https://www.taxjournal.com/articles/...scape-18102018


We certainly weren't free...................


What I do wonder is why I have even bothered to link you

I couldn't post a more direct rebuttal of your tosh but hey lets have some fun with the effort to unravel yourself

And we are still not free!

[Stuartli]

Just look at the NHS nowadays; one person in seven in the UK is stuck on their endless waiting lists, whilst millions of lazy-a$$ed motorists get to tank-up on the cheap - duh!

Hardly surprising after the long pandemic followed by numerous strikes...

[The PNP]

Hardly surprising after the long pandemic followed by numerous strikes...

Sedentary lifestyle choices, also have a lot to answer for....Something drastically wrong with a society, when one in seven of it's population is on a waiting-list for hospital treatment.

[silver fox]

Sedentary lifestyle choices, also have a lot to answer for....Something drastically wrong with a society, when one in seven of it's population is on a waiting-list for hospital treatment.

While you continue to promote smoking the population to death with wood burning stoves, you know what they say about people who live in glass houses.

[said]

No it wasn't "vaguely mentioned".

It was a major part of the "sovereignty" argument and like most of the Brexit sory, a lie. We always were in control of our own taxation.

As to your post re Brexit itself, I suggest you and local run away together and stop burdening us with claims about Brexit.

It isn't "Brexit lite" ("light" BTW) . It is being gradually implemented . For example we are about to see yet more price rises from the imposition of the entirely predictable inspection measures.

What is alarming is local's complete confusion re what she/he voted for.. The total outcome of the vote was to "leave" with no indication as to how. The arguments of the following years were about the "how". The Act itself was passed in 2017. A series of events which clearly confuses local.

And if he/she thinks it was clear what was to follow, perhaps an explanation is onits way about why the Rees-Mogg/Bridgen set of cretins kept voting against their own party's attempts at a deal. And why during the campaign itself the Leave squad had at least three different versions of what was to follow.

In December 2011 the UK Government's failure to secure certain guarantees for the UK in exchange for UK agreement on an EU ‘fiscal compact' marked a significant moment for the UK's relationship with the EU.
In a speech delivered on 23 January 2013, former Prime Minister David Cameron said he wanted the UK to be part of a different EU. He reiterated his intention to renegotiate the terms of the UK's EU membership and pledged to follow the renegotiation with a national referendum.
A referendum on the UK's continued membership of the EU was held on 23 June 2016. Results revealed that 51.89 percent of voters opted for the UK to leave the European Union.

Just as with the Scottish Independence vote, the more distant voters are from the main body of the electorate the more they will vote in opposition to the main electorate. You will find the main body of voters in Scotland voted approximately in all areas, 3 - 1 for no independence. In the UK, voting was spread Worldwide, with expats having no knowledge of British farming, fishing or immigration. Had the vote been in the UK alone - you would have found at least 2 - 1 for leaving.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland...itics-29255449

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-36616028

[The PNP]

While you continue to promote smoking the population to death with wood burning stoves, you know what they say about people who live in glass houses.

It's all part of the same equation.....We're now at 1.5c above pre-industrial levels and counting. Yet many folk behave as if #Greenhouse Earth isn't even a thing. Running gas central heating/jumping in the car, all without a care in the world. And it's not as if there aren't viable alternatives!

[said]

It's all part of the same equation.....We're now at 1.5c above pre-industrial levels and counting. Yet many folk behave as if #Greenhouse Earth isn't even a thing. Running gas central heating/jumping in the car, all without a care in the world. And it's not as if there aren't viable alternatives!

I know that you are one of those convinced by this Global Warming thing and you believe all that the media has promoted on it. Can you honestly hold hand to heart and say that the media do not have a second agenda, that everything they tell you is gospel truth? If you say that they do lie about some things - then why, when they are tied to the stock markets would they not lie about anything that negatively affects the stock markets?

There is absolutely nothing that supports the theory of Global Warming - not ice bergs melting (they often do and that is how gulfs were formed), not Polar Bears dying out (In fact they are thriving) not man made green house gases (water has a green house effect) nothing that man can do will affect the might of nature - Nature is way beyond any experts understanding and no man, army or combined people on Earth can control nature or affect it. If it was possible for humans to control nature - they would have been able to prevent Earthquakes, or Volcanoes, perhaps Tornadoes, Storms etc., They would be able to water arid deserts. Heaven, they are unable to predict the climate or even the weather for more than a week at a time - how on earth can they predict Global Warming for decades?

[bensherman]

The combination of misunderstandings in there is remarkable.

[local]

Just a simple thank you would have been enough

[local]

Fuel duty has been 'frozen' for goodness knows how many years now, during which time inflation has reduced the cost of fuel in real terms. It's way too cheap nowadays and if it had been raised at a realistic rate over the years, would probably be around £2 a litre.

That it would be inflationary, is true...but the price-hike would soon work its way through the system and people simply adjust to it. How is it right for fuel to become cheaper in real terms year on year, whilst care for the most needy in society is whittled annually away?

Try again,

just imagine what goes by truck and other vehicles it wouldn't "work through" more likely tip us into a deep recession.

The country teeters on the edge as it is.

Even "care for the needy" would have to increase dramatically in price.

Just think a little harder as to what "care for the needy involves"

[bensherman]

In December 2011 the UK Government's failure to secure certain guarantees for the UK in exchange for UK agreement on an EU ‘fiscal compact' marked a significant moment for the UK's relationship with the EU.
In a speech delivered on 23 January 2013, former Prime Minister David Cameron said he wanted the UK to be part of a different EU. He reiterated his intention to renegotiate the terms of the UK's EU membership and pledged to follow the renegotiation with a national referendum.
A referendum on the UK's continued membership of the EU was held on 23 June 2016. Results revealed that 51.89 percent of voters opted for the UK to leave the European Union.

Just as with the Scottish Independence vote, the more distant voters are from the main body of the electorate the more they will vote in opposition to the main electorate. You will find the main body of voters in Scotland voted approximately in all areas, 3 - 1 for no independence. In the UK, voting was spread Worldwide, with expats having no knowledge of British farming, fishing or immigration. Had the vote been in the UK alone - you would have found at least 2 - 1 for leaving.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland...itics-29255449

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-36616028

That's your guess.
You have no data to support that.
And it would appear that residence in England did not guarantee familiarity with the topics you mention.
Farming and fishing are two areas most blighted by Brexit and you have seen for yourself what happened to immigration.

[bensherman]

Did anyone hear Hunt on today this morning?

Always a tricky time for a Chancellor. the day AFTER the budget. Because people have had time to read it.

Growth without immigrants? Err, Jezza, read the OBR notes with YOUR budget. Turns out the growth forecasts are WITH immigration.

Taxing non-doms ..." Which we have always wanted to do"...so you've had 13 opportunities since 2010 and somehow never taken one of them. It's like you come home with the shopping, and then you realise NO MILK. I'll get some next week.

Productivity in the NHS...you don't need more doctors and nurses, just a bit of AI...given the success of Blairs "Connecting for Health"...make a note in your diary for about 2 years from now, when the IT companies and the consultants have bled the NHS dry, and then they say " Can't be done"..."Couldn't get co-operation from the care staff ( can't imagine what they are doing)...perhaps he'd know this if he has ever been ( say) Secretary for Health????

He was reduced to telling Amal Rajan " This is not worthy of the BBC"...you know, asking questions and stuff, reading what I actually said..

Still he has a marginal seat. And intellect.

[local]

That's your guess.
You have no data to support that.
And it would appear that residence in England did not guarantee familiarity with the topics you mention.
Farming and fishing are two areas most blighted by Brexit and you have seen for yourself what happened to immigration.

Telly broke?



Why are farmers protesting across the EU and what can the bloc do about it?

Food producers say increasing costs, tiny margins and climate policies leave livelihoods in peril

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...oc-do-about-it


Immigration the so called legal kind is a deliberate government policy to provide cheap labour for the big employers as we all know mass immigration reduces wages.

Oops I remember you had a problem working that out.

As to the illegal type useless EU and France no one else to blame.


And Europes illegal immigration problem runs wild and the answer apparently is to share them out across the EU and us if the Liar Starmer gets in.


You still haven't thanked me for my Tax education for you

[The PNP]

Try again,

just imagine what goes by truck and other vehicles it wouldn't "work through" more likely tip us into a deep recession.

The country teeters on the edge as it is.

Even "care for the needy" would have to increase dramatically in price.

Just think a little harder as to what "care for the needy involves"

You may be onto something there.....So let's reduce fuel pump prices by 50p instead. Why, at £1 a liter by your logic, essential services and the economy would boom!

Must say, 'real cyclist', I find your opposition to the £2 litre to be rather odd. As not only would it reduce density of motor traffic, the cyclists worst enemy. But provide much-needed cash to fix dangerous potholes, bringing the roads we cycle on up to top condition.

[local]

You may be onto something there.....So let's reduce fuel pump prices by 50p instead. Why, at £1 a liter by your logic, essential services and the economy would boom!

Must say, 'real cyclist', I find your opposition to the £2 litre to be rather odd. As not only would it reduce density of motor traffic, the cyclists worst enemy. But provide much-needed cash to fix dangerous potholes, bringing the roads we cycle on up to top condition.

The economy would get an enormous boost from cheaper fuel.

There is little that wouldn't be helped financially from farming to food and delivery of raw materials to shop door.

We only have to look at the effects on the world's economies from Putins war in Ukraine.





Cyclists' worst enemy is themselves.

I did link you to the facts some time ago but you seem to have forgotten.

I also linked you to a pro cyclists injury site you mustn't have read it.