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    1. Hamas are terrorists.
      They committed horrendous atrocities October 7 and after.
      1. Israel attacked Gaza with overwhelming force.
      2. 30,000 Palestinian fatalities and counting.
      3. mass starvation; infrastructure destroyed;
      4. children traumatised for life probably.






    And not forgetting…

    Israel will Prevail.




    …but at what cost to its standing
    in the international community?






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    Quote Originally Posted by local View Post
    Any "victory" for Israel will be pyrrhic.

    I imagine they have doubled or trebled Hamas's support.
    Local, your insight into any victory for Israel, will be pyrrhic, is exactly what many Israelis are feeling.


    All I can say,in my own personal opinion, is that the eradication of Hamas, will unfortunately be a temporary solution to the situation. There could eventually be a peaceful agreement, as is with Egypt ..but it would have to take a very strong leader on both sides, who can eventually get that agreement under way.



    I honestly don’t believe there is a snowballs chance in hell of finding those leaders. Anwar Sadat was such a leader .. poor guy paid with his life after signing that agreement.assassination.Great loss to that region.

    The promoting of Hamas is evident by all the rallies and demonstrations which we are witnessing daily.
    Things are not always as they seem.

    Have a nice day, and let’s hope that the current Middle East conflict will not be the beginning of WW3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shippy View Post

    Have a nice day, and let’s hope that the current Middle East conflict will not be the beginning of WW3.
    Interesting but entirely irrelevant point: I was chatting to my B-I-L yesterday, as atheist as they come (we have weird conversations that go off on many tangents). He read that in 'Revelations' it says Armageddon will happen when Israel stands alone. If there comes a point where Israel has no support from the west, that's when the 'end of the world' will come.

    He believes Biblical fairy stories as much as I do, but it reminded me when I read your post. Though I don't see Israel without the support of the west at any time soon.

    And of course the 'end of the world' could mean the world they knew back in Biblical times. Could well mean war in the Middle East, or a few villages in the area they saw as 'the world'.

    That's the thing with Scriptures from whatever religion, they are open to an awful lot of interpretation thousands of years on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty View Post
    Interesting but entirely irrelevant point: I was chatting to my B-I-L yesterday, as atheist as they come (we have weird conversations that go off on many tangents). He read that in 'Revelations' it says Armageddon will happen when Israel stands alone. If there comes a point where Israel has no support from the west, that's when the 'end of the world' will come.

    He believes Biblical fairy stories as much as I do, but it reminded me when I read your post. Though I don't see Israel without the support of the west at any time soon.

    And of course the 'end of the world' could mean the world they knew back in Biblical times. Could well mean war in the Middle East, or a few villages in the area they saw as 'the world'.

    That's the thing with Scriptures from whatever religion, they are open to an awful lot of interpretation thousands of years on.
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    Evangelicals have been among Israel’s fiercest foreign supporters for years, particularly in the United States, where their significant political influence has helped shape the Israel policy of recent Republican administrations.

    They believe Israel is key to an end-times prophecy that will bring about the return of the Christian Messiah. Many of these Christians support Israel due to Old Testament writings that Jews are God’s chosen people and that Israel is their rightful homeland.


    With the war in its sixth month, Israel is under growing international pressure to do more to end the suffering of civilians in Gaza, including allowing in more aid. Aid groups say the fighting has displaced most of the territory’s population and pushed a quarter of the population to the brink of famine. Hospitals have reported that some children have died of hunger.



    By MELANIE LIDMAN | March 13, 2024
    Copyright 2024 The Associated Press.

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