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Try reading this
https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandp...tarmer-brexit/
You can read can't you?
He is correct that we threw away many advantages of our EU membership when we left . And that return could mean joining the euro ( which I would not object to).
Then there is the matter of whether they trust us after the way Johnson behaved.
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Toodles McGinty
Ireland didn't vote about Brexit. Why on earth would they? Did you vote in the recent Irish referendum?
Those protestors aren't worried about Europeans.
Brexit had voters from all over, ex-pats as well as the UK.
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Originally Posted by
bensherman
Try reading this
https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandp...tarmer-brexit/
You can read can't you?
He is correct that we threw away many advantages of our EU membership when we left . And that return could mean joining the euro ( which I would not object to).
Then there is the matter of whether they trust us after the way Johnson behaved.
"Brexit deprives the UK of the advantages of EU membership but leaves UK governments free to take action which continued application of EU rules would restrict. Action like giving more taxpayer support to businesses, blocking unwelcome foreign takeovers of UK companies, using public contracts to further government industrial policy, and adopting a different approach to the development of genetically modified organisms. In these and many other respects, the UK’s Trade and Cooperation Agreement (TCA) with the EU offers much more room to manoeuvre than did EU membership."
We cannot join the Euro - it would severely damage our leading financial services.
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Originally Posted by
bensherman
The only thing wrong with that, is that it is wrong.
In overall terms have a look at this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potent...of%20remaining.
So in about 60 polls over 3 years only 2 in favour of leave.
Then there's Yougov
The number of leave voters regretting their decision , net of remain, would be enough to move the vote to remain.
I have never met any Remain voters who now believe it was right to leave.
With regard to Ireland, the irony of the Irish people resisting immigrants is delicious. It's no surprise though, that there is space for right-wing politicians to exploit it. Even including the literally swivel-eyed guy who appears in the video spewing the familiar stuff about "puppets" and an elite.
BYW at the last poll 88% of Irish people supported remaining in the EU.
Considering that Reform are rising fast as a party - It would appear very much that you information is wrong. Certainly none I know of on social media agree with you.
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Considering that Reform are rising fast as a party - It would appear very much that you information is wrong. Certainly none I know of on social media agree with you.
Disaffected Tories may well be turning to Reform, but it is pure fantasy to believe that the latest version of UKIP will do any better, you speak of social media, at what point does social media determine policy or overall opinion?
Our lives, our country, is not driven by social media, which after all is no more than the modern equivalent of gossip over the garden wall.
Granted I am not a devotee of Faceache, Twitter nor any of the gossip sites, in fact social media is in many ways detrimental to reality, the number of times when social media is alive with some conspiracy or other, you know the stuff “everyone is talking about this or that” a bit of research quickly shows that the entire story stems from one source, with zero validation.
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Brexit had voters from all over, ex-pats as well as the UK.
I never said it didn't, but you specifically linked to the unrest with immigration in Ireland, which has zero to do with Brexit.
And that unrest doesn't involve EU citizens either. It's with African and ME immigrants / asylum seekers.
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