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    The Cass Report Yet More Evidence of The Sick Woke Culture.

    Our children have been mutilated at the woke altar.

    Exploited by the deranged and experimented on in places like the Tavistock Clinic where our modern day Clauberg and Schumann routinely destroyed lives.

    It is a national disgrace.

    These modern day perverts have denied children the love, care and support they needed for difficult times in their lives instead they have been used like laboratory rats to produce Frankenstein young people.

    Drug infused and mutilated we will all be picking up the pieces of their lives for generations.





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    As I've mentioned, this is a really tricky area.

    Personally I don't think any child should be 'transed'. Social transition, fine. If a kid wants to present as the opposite sex, dress & be referred to as a different name, let them. They'll grow out of it or they won't. In primary school, most sports are mixed, so that isn't an issue.

    Toilet / changing facilities are a different issue, but I'm sure most schools can, if needed, provide a 'neutral' area.

    But administering puberty blockers? Madness. As far as I know, not enough is known about the long term effects. Most pro-transing 'experts' will say there are no long term effects, that kids are often prescribed them for precocious puberty. But those are short term medications, not for gender reassignment.

    I would think that extensive therapy should be the path to take. Establish to root of any 'gender-distress'. Is the child neurodiverse, possibly gay, in a particularly dysfunctional household? I've read a great many kids referred to Tavistock have a parent convicted of sex offences, for example.

    I was watching Bill Maher's show last night. A psychologist guest declared no child should be exposed to social media before the age of 14. No smart phones. Only using the internet for educational reasons. Given that there are so many kids following whatever 'Tik Tok' trend pops up weekly - eating washing pods, 'Prime' drinks, sniffing aerosols, seriously dangerous activities, etc - I think he's correct. Young minds are vulnerable. Perhaps this explosion in gender discomfort is yet another social contagion.

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    The Tavistock clinic has been closed.

    This is a tricky issue. People who deny children, with their parents approval, trans-gendering are as guilty of "mutilation" as those who allow it.

    It's true that surgery only happens in a minority of cases,if that's what's meant by "mutilation". It's also true that imposing some age threshold will subject some children to real difficulty in later life . It's nature that generates puberty, not some medical service.

    If I look back now at my childhood I am aware of one child who I now realise was physically a boy but mentally and emotionally a female. God only knows what his life has been like. Certainly we made his childhood a nightmare.

    As for social media, I think it's now trying to get the genie back in the bottle, sadly.

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    These are such young, fragile minds. We don't listen, we're guilty. We do listen, we potentially damage those young minds, and bodies, consigning them to a lifetime of drugs and surgeries. Life shortening drugs at that.

    On the one hand, we have the Cass Report, basically saying 'slow down', let's see some long term, peer reviewed studies into the effects of such drugs and surgeries. On the other we have a great many trans adults happy to have been given the chance to transition.

    There have been reports from Belgium for over a decade saying people are requesting euthanasia because gender reassignment surgery isn't a magic spell, and the physical and psychological pain is too much. There are also transsexual (as opposed to transgender) people perfectly content with their lives.

    There's also a movement that I can only describe as a cult, screaming literal murder at those opposed to male bodies in women's spaces, sports, etc. Do we want naked male bodies in our changing rooms with women and little girls? Male bodies in women's sports? I'd say the answer is largely 'no'. Those people are mainly perfectly happy to undergo no transition at all, except wearing women's clothing. So you've got basically cross dressers wanting access to female spaces, men who get a sexual thrill from that, people who see themselves as 'non-binary' (that's the social contagion bit for me), those genuinely dysphoric, and transsexuals who want nothing to do with 'transgenders'.

    And lost in that noise, confused kids who just need help. Which is where I think therapy comes in. Take away the adult noise, the politics, the fetishists, the Big Pharma making a killing from selling puberty blockers and wrong sex hormones. Just listen to the kids.

    It may well be they have a deep rooted gender dysphoria. It may also be (as one youngster I know) that they are scared to grow into porn addled men, or women forced to live up to certain expectations. They might be gay but in an ultra-religious family. While trans people may have been around forever, real studies into children haven't. That has to be addressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty View Post
    As I've mentioned, this is a really tricky area.

    Personally I don't think any child should be 'transed'. Social transition, fine. If a kid wants to present as the opposite sex, dress & be referred to as a different name, let them. They'll grow out of it or they won't. In primary school, most sports are mixed, so that isn't an issue.

    Toilet / changing facilities are a different issue, but I'm sure most schools can, if needed, provide a 'neutral' area.

    But administering puberty blockers? Madness. As far as I know, not enough is known about the long term effects. Most pro-transing 'experts' will say there are no long term effects, that kids are often prescribed them for precocious puberty. But those are short term medications, not for gender reassignment.

    I would think that extensive therapy should be the path to take. Establish to root of any 'gender-distress'. Is the child neurodiverse, possibly gay, in a particularly dysfunctional household? I've read a great many kids referred to Tavistock have a parent convicted of sex offences, for example.

    I was watching Bill Maher's show last night. A psychologist guest declared no child should be exposed to social media before the age of 14. No smart phones. Only using the internet for educational reasons. Given that there are so many kids following whatever 'Tik Tok' trend pops up weekly - eating washing pods, 'Prime' drinks, sniffing aerosols, seriously dangerous activities, etc - I think he's correct. Young minds are vulnerable. Perhaps this explosion in gender discomfort is yet another social contagion.


    Hopefully, this tide of insanity can be turned around.

    Show children some compassion and lock these perverts away from them.

    How many of us have known young children who haven't quite "fitted lifes pigeon holes" and yet have gone into adulthood finding their place without the administering of drugs, surgery and other interventions.

    You have a "tomboy" you don't rush to a gender clinic you let them explore their feelings and support them to do it.

    I know a few and one still is the other just saw it as a thing whilst growing up.

    Your son "prefers pink" so what let him, don't drug him and pencil him in for surgery to become something he can't, a girl.

    Just as with the girl who tells you she looks "fat" yet is painfully skinny you don't agree with them and remove their food.

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    Quote Originally Posted by local View Post
    Hopefully, this tide of insanity can be turned around.

    Show children some compassion and lock these perverts away from them.

    How many of us have known young children who haven't quite "fitted lifes pigeon holes" and yet have gone into adulthood finding their place without the administering of drugs, surgery and other interventions.

    You have a "tomboy" you don't rush to a gender clinic you let them explore their feelings and support them to do it.

    I know a few and one still is the other just saw it as a thing whilst growing up.

    Your son "prefers pink" so what let him, don't drug him and pencil him in for surgery to become something he can't, a girl.

    Just as with the girl who tells you she looks "fat" yet is painfully skinny you don't agree with them and remove their food.

    True. Unfortunately, too many vulnerable people have lost their common sense having formed a close relationship with televised propaganda. They are allowing their children to be controlled by the media - that is a crime!

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    The televised media's influence is dwarfed by the online influencers and the misguided use of these people by big business anxious to ride the woke bandwagon.

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    Nothing to do with "woke" and I am mystified as to why "big business" has an interest in this.

    We are trying to deal with an issue which has always existed, but which now, I am glad to say, is in public view.

    It is loaded with significance and so the faltering initial approach has had problems but don't let us push it away and pretend it doesn't exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bensherman View Post
    Nothing to do with "woke" and I am mystified as to why "big business" has an interest in this.

    We are trying to deal with an issue which has always existed, but which now, I am glad to say, is in public view.

    It is loaded with significance and so the faltering initial approach has had problems but don't let us push it away and pretend it doesn't exist.

    Big business as a lot to do with this. It is estimated that in the US, a transgender person will pay somewhere in the region of $1m over a lifetime. For surgeons and pharma companies, that's a very attractive cake they are happy to take a slice of. That's without therapists costs initially. Drugs are quite cheap compared to a lot of other conditions, but they are needed for life.

    In 2010 there was one single gender clinic in the US, now there are 100s. Don't get me wrong, I think adults who wish to modify their bodies and can afford to do so, well, that's their business.

    My main concern is with kids. The explosion in TG kids, particularly young girls, is evidence that we are going very wrong as a society. As I mentioned, there are so many kids being sent to gender clinics who have neurological conditions, from unhealthy households, with TikTok parents for whom their children's transition seems an opportunity for attention (transhausen parents) and many reasons other than simply gender distress.

    The Cass Report needs reviewing by experts in the field. The refusal of many clinics to open up to Dr Cass is most concerning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    True. Unfortunately, too many vulnerable people have lost their common sense having formed a close relationship with televised propaganda. They are allowing their children to be controlled by the media - that is a crime!
    Television has little influence on kids. They don't watch it, generally.

    They are glued to screens, but not that type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty View Post
    Television has little influence on kids. They don't watch it, generally.

    They are glued to screens, but not that type.


    Yes if you get someone younger to show you what's on their screens it's frightening.

    This horrible woke nightmare has got the backing of so many big-name companies and so many gullible people just don't understand what's going on.

    Thankfully there is some light being shone on this exploitation of our young and the undermining of women.

    It seems we didn't pay attention after the Keira Bell case.

    And who supported the Tavistock Frankenstein clinic but none other than the abnoxious "Good law" project.

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