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    Quote Originally Posted by justbecause View Post
    Please explain what that has to do with asking for tips for a horse race.
    Nothing....It has to do with responding to your post about motorists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The PNP View Post
    Nothing....It has to do with responding to your post about motorists.
    No, YOUR comment about horses being killed on the road, which was obviously a dig at motorists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justbecause View Post
    No, YOUR comment about horses being killed on the road, which was obviously a dig at motorists.
    Well then, you've answered your own question!

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    Quote Originally Posted by donkey22 View Post
    The “brave” jockeys have a choice and are rewarded well for it. The horses don’t get that choice. Exploiting animals for financial greed is awful. Race horses that refuse to race or have their careers cut short because of injury are normally exported abroad for slaughter.
    Go and visit an abattoir to see where your juicy steaks and tasty chops come from. I did almost 40 years ago. That was the day I stopped eating meat. If the smell of blood, p1ss and sht doesn’t put you off, the terror in those eyes and the screams from pigs getting gassed will do.
    Not to mention the fate of "retired" race horses, who are no longer able or too old to make money for their trainers/owners.
    Last edited by Nick2; 11/04/2024 at 11:43 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick2 View Post
    Not to mention the fate of "retired" race horses, who are no longer able or too old to make money for their trainers/owners.
    It’s so sad Nick. If they’re not making money, they’re not wanted.
    Exactly the same in the Greyhound racing industry. I’ve adopted three ex racers up to now. If it wasn’t for the re-homing charities they’d end up in holes in the ground at the end of their careers, many are retired through injury as young as 3 or 4. Such sweet natured, gentle dogs too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donkey22 View Post
    It’s so sad Nick. If they’re not making money, they’re not wanted.
    Exactly the same in the Greyhound racing industry. I’ve adopted three ex racers up to now. If it wasn’t for the re-homing charities they’d end up in holes in the ground at the end of their careers, many are retired through injury as young as 3 or 4. Such sweet natured, gentle dogs too.
    Yes, part of our family in the UK have been adopting retrired greyhounds for many years. They are lovely dogs.

    Over 200 racehorses are killed on courses in the UK, very year. With around a 1000 slaughtered at the end of their short careers, for meat. That does not include the numbers of these poor animals simply sent to the local knackers yard, because they cost too much to keep. I cant help wondering if the people profiting from this vile so called sport, are proud of these figures.
    It's the same over here with figures into the 100s annually.
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    So annoying when the ‘like’ button doesn’t work.
    Nick, please consider both your posts liked

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    Quote Originally Posted by donkey22 View Post
    So annoying when the ‘like’ button doesn’t work.
    Nick, please consider both your posts liked
    Just be yourself, no one else is better qualified!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by donkey22 View Post
    Fine. Stop breeding them. As an ethical vegan I’m against all animal exploitation.
    Not vegan nor vegetarian, I do fully understand animals reared as a food source, but using animals purely as some form of entertainment doesn’t sit well.

    Sadly the entire horse racing industry and the gambling businesses go hand in glove, one feeds on the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver fox View Post
    Not vegan nor vegetarian, I do fully understand animals reared as a food source, but using animals purely as some form of entertainment doesn’t sit well.

    Sadly the entire horse racing industry and the gambling businesses go hand in glove, one feeds on the other.
    True....I'm certainly no regular to the Bookies, but have always enjoyed the GN. Even when overseas, I'd listen via the World Service on the day.

    Must say I'm surprised, to see opposition to a traditional sport that's always been around and enjoyed. Maybe the press have been running anti-horse stories or something, in recent years? If so I haven't seen any, not having taken a UK paper since way back in the day. If it isn't headlined on the front page on the newsstands, I'm unlikely to have seen it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The PNP View Post
    True....I'm certainly no regular to the Bookies, but have always enjoyed the GN. Even when overseas, I'd listen via the World Service on the day.

    Must say I'm surprised, to see opposition to a traditional sport that's always been around and enjoyed. Maybe the press have been running anti-horse stories or something, in recent years? If so I haven't seen any, not having taken a UK paper since way back in the day. If it isn't headlined on the front page on the newsstands, I'm unlikely to have seen it.
    Between your ears is for thinking Have you for just one minute ever considered what happens to the 1000s of these beautiful creatures, when they are seriously injured or of no further money making use to their owners/trainers. Perhaps the same should happen to the 100s of racing cyclists worldwide, seriously injured during races.

    Perhaps you should look here. It’s got nothing to do with recent news articles.

    https://www.horsedeathwatch.com/
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    Quote Originally Posted by The PNP View Post
    True....I'm certainly no regular to the Bookies, but have always enjoyed the GN. Even when overseas, I'd listen via the World Service on the day.

    Must say I'm surprised, to see opposition to a traditional sport that's always been around and enjoyed. Maybe the press have been running anti-horse stories or something, in recent years? If so I haven't seen any, not having taken a UK paper since way back in the day. If it isn't headlined on the front page on the newsstands, I'm unlikely to have seen it.
    Some of the jockeys whip the horses excessively particularly the Irish ones, the whips should be banned.
    One horse dead today in the first race.
    Last edited by Alikado; 12/04/2024 at 02:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The PNP View Post
    True....I'm certainly no regular to the Bookies, but have always enjoyed the GN. Even when overseas, I'd listen via the World Service on the day.

    Must say I'm surprised, to see opposition to a traditional sport that's always been around and enjoyed. Maybe the press have been running anti-horse stories or something, in recent years? If so I haven't seen any, not having taken a UK paper since way back in the day. If it isn't headlined on the front page on the newsstands, I'm unlikely to have seen it.
    Fox hunting, badger baiting and hare coursing were also once considered ‘traditional’ sports. Thankfully most of society has moved on (with a few exceptions), and are now horrified at these barbaric practices.
    Animals aren’t here for our entertainment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donkey22 View Post
    Fox hunting, badger baiting and hare coursing were also once considered ‘traditional’ sports. Thankfully most of society has moved on (with a few exceptions), and are now horrified at these barbaric practices.
    Animals aren’t here for our entertainment.
    Have to say, I do enjoy chancing across a fox, pheasant, hare, rabbit, etc, when out cycling. So can't say I support deliberately killing them for sport. When it comes to dogs, better (though you won't agree) to have dogs chase an artificial hare around an enclosed track.

    Always thought badger baiting was plain cruel, no better than bear-baiting back in the day. Not best pleased about sport-fishing either, where the poor things are dragged out of their watery home, not to eat but just to be thrown back in any old state.
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    Some grand hypocrisy on animals.

    A horse and most other animals in the wild have a very very hard life.

    Nature is extroadinarily cruel and many animals live a life of fear waiting to be eaten by others.

    Some die in terrible circumstances.

    Unfortunately whoever or whatever put us here gave us a "pecking order"

    Running around a race track something some of us humans do for "fun" is a holiday compared to life for many in the wild.

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