'National' Tips?

[gsgsgs]

I'm curious, does the same 'no-jumps' thinking, also apply to horse-trials like Badminton and Burghley. And what about events like showjumping and foxhunting (with a drag).? Without the challenge of jumps, these would all become non-events!

I wonder if you are just being deliberately pedantic or genuinely don't have the intelligence to post a reasoned response to defend your ludicrous posts.

Do you seriously think there is any comparison between 34 horses bundled closely together being whipped to go faster jumping over solid fences and one horse at a steady pace jumping over gates and fences built to collapse if the horse catches them.

[The PNP]

I wonder if you are just being deliberately pedantic or genuinely don't have the intelligence to post a reasoned response to defend your ludicrous posts.

Do you seriously think there is any comparison between 34 horses bundled closely together being whipped to go faster jumping over solid fences and one horse at a steady pace jumping over gates and fences built to collapse if the horse catches them.

Solid fences? Aintree jumps are made from vegetation, half of which is gone by the second time around...... Gardens have 'solid' fences!

Surely when/if a horse falls and sustains damage, it makes little or no difference if it's being ridden solo, or as part of a group.

[Alikado]

Solid fences? Aintree jumps are made from vegetation, half of which is gone by the second time around...... Gardens have 'solid' fences!

Surely when/if a horse falls and sustains damage, it makes little or no difference if it's being ridden solo, or as part of a group.

The fences have a solid frame usually covered in conifer branches, having a 9 or 10 stone jockey on board makes a hell of a difference to the horses ability to run and jump this is what the handicap system is all about so in theory all the horses should finish equal first. The problem arises with this when the the horse doesn't ' make the weight' so it ends up carrying extra to get to the minimum.

[Nick2]

I'm curious, does the same 'no-jumps' thinking, also apply to horse-trials like Badminton and Burghley. And what about events like showjumping and foxhunting (with a drag).? Without the challenge of jumps, these would all become non-events!

It applies to all so called sports, where defenceless animals are subjected to even the remotest risk of injury or death. Particularly when the event is for human gratification, or financial gain.

Now that's not difficult to understand is it? Even for someone like you.

[MICK/GILLY]

Bet on one horse, got given the wrong ticket of another, the first horse fell at the first fence and the mistake horse won. Yes you couldn’t make this stuff up… oh wait.

[Nick2]

Bet on one horse, got given the wrong ticket of another, the first horse fell at the first fence and the mistake horse won. Yes you couldn’t make this stuff up… oh wait.

Yes he could! This is the guy that somehow believes that the wood he burns on his fire wasn't at some time past, part of a living healthy tree.

[The PNP]

Bet on one horse, got given the wrong ticket of another, the first horse fell at the first fence and the mistake horse won. Yes you couldn’t make this stuff up… oh wait.

Duh....As it happens, I've not collected my winnings yet. So I still have the winning slip in my wallet, to meet-up and show to you. Fancy making a £50 bet that I'm lying, Mick?

[The PNP]

Yes he could! This is the guy that somehow believes that the wood he burns on his fire wasn't at some time past, part of a living healthy tree.

Incorrect, of course I believe that....It's from a local treesurgeon, who previously would take it to the tip. My accepting and using it, prevents it being left at the tip to rot-down and release methane. - a very powerful #Greenhouse Gas.

[The PNP]

It applies to all so called sports, where defenceless animals are subjected to even the remotest risk of injury or death. Particularly when the event is for human gratification, or financial gain.

Now that's not difficult to understand is it? Even for someone like you.

Well, that's a relief of sorts, at least it only applies to sports animals and not to the working animals of the World.

[gsgsgs]

Duh....As it happens, I've not collected my winnings yet. So I still have the winning slip in my wallet, to meet-up and show to you. Fancy making a £50 bet that I'm lying, Mick?

I think it's a bit far for Nick to meet up, but you could take a photo and send it to him.

[local]

The ecological value of a dead tree to the planet, something a true environmentalist would know or find out about.

Might even understand the issue of methane.





“We’re tracing where the methane is originally coming from, and what we’re finding is that it’s coming from the soils, and as it moves through the tree, it’s changing as well,” said study co-author Marcelo Ardón, an associate professor of Forestry and Environmental Resources at North Carolina State University. “The methane is being processed as it moves through those snags.”



https://www.earth.com/news/why-are-d...tting-methane/

That tree surgeon must supply so many homes, surely?

[The PNP]

I think it's a bit far for Nick to meet up, but you could take a photo and send it to him.

But not too far for Mick, who was driving up and down Manchester Rd a week ago, as he is/was living locally. Due work, I'm mobile in town most days myself, so can't see any problem meeting. Having said that, the £50 he thinks he'll be winning, would cover his train-fare from a fair distance away. Beyond that, I can meet a proxy of his that he trusts, who can give me the £50 when I meet them in town.

[The PNP]

The ecological value of a dead tree to the planet, something a true environmentalist would know or find out about.

Might even understand the issue of methane.





“We’re tracing where the methane is originally coming from, and what we’re finding is that it’s coming from the soils, and as it moves through the tree, it’s changing as well,” said study co-author Marcelo Ardón, an associate professor of Forestry and Environmental Resources at North Carolina State University. “The methane is being processed as it moves through those snags.”



https://www.earth.com/news/why-are-d...tting-methane/

That tree surgeon must supply so many homes, surely?

No, the treesurgeon doesn't sell logs. To turn his chunks of tree into a commercial product, he'd have to reduce them to burnable-sized logs and store them for some years, then bag them up and run delivery-runs to many addresses.

He doesn't need the hassle of doing that and I doubt even has the land to process and store the material on. Which is why he's glad to get rid of it in one go at our yard, which also saves him paying to tip it.

[Nick2]

I think it's a bit far for Nick to meet up, but you could take a photo and send it to him.

No thanks,

[Nick2]

Well, that's a relief of sorts, at least it only applies to sports animals and not to the working animals of the World.

The thread was about the Grand National and the like, if my memory hasn’t let me down, like yours seems to do constantly. Cruelty to any animal worldwide is abhorrent. Maybe trees have feelings too?