Hi there John,

LINK: http://www.bonhams.com/cgi-bin/publi...aleSectionNo=4

Vanny, I just brought this for £72, what sort of value do you think it is worth and where would be the best place to sell it?

Also could you tell me anything about it please?

Kind regards.

i would say its looks victorian ,,,i think i saw one of these in an american auction with a guide price of $200-$300 dollars, if i had an antique shop i would stick £125 on it and hope for the best...

but what do i know? john will probably totaly contradict my guestimate..

good luck with it.

Originally Posted by briana5125

i would say its looks victorian ,,,i think i saw one of these in an american auction with a guide price of $200-$300 dollars, if i had an antique shop i would stick £125 on it and hope for the best...

but what do i know? john will probably totaly contradict my guestimate..

good luck with it.

I originally was drawn to the lovely frame.

And for £60 + commision, what can you complain, not really a lordly some of money to pay.

Sounds fair to me, just bid on it as I liked it really, also very curious to know and find out what John says as well.

Looks good

I would say a good buy
Lord Byron also a good name.


remember you paid more than any one else in the room and more than any one else on the phone.

But that does not mean you paid top money.

As suggested by briana5125
£125 would be a fair retail price.

That is a weight of my mind, £100 - £125 sounds about right to me, what age what you date it John. ?

If I sell it for £126, that is 75% profit, so I may start at that price and go to £100 lowest, just I thought it is brass, relatively old, and quite a good subject / name, also it came in a nice frame, the estimate was £120 - £180, so I thought for £60 + commision, it would be a fair price to pay.

Also...

I believe it wasn't to high or to low, he said start at £60, I was tempted to shout out £40 or £50, but then now I am sure looking back somebody would then big agaisnt me due to the low enticing in price.

I paid more than anybody else in the sale room?

Only I bid on it as I thought it was going cheap.

Also you say I paid more than anyone else... doesn't everyone who wins something at Auction, it doesn't mean that doesn't mean everyone pays full wack who wins, does it...

Advanced.

You did well

If you had of shouted £40

THE WALL would have bid £50 and you would have bought it for £60

Well done

Originally Posted by vanman

Advanced.

You did well

If you had of shouted £40

THE WALL would have bid £50 and you would have bought it for £60

Well done

Could of shouted £50 then right . ?

Ok, fair price paid anyway I believe... By the way thank you for all your help and guidance, sorry if you are getting annoyed with these persistant questions, but just to let you know you have helped me so much, and I really greatly appreciate it.

ah the wall! i have been in plenty a bidding war with the wall and also the man at the back!

your best to go to the viewing first,then mark a few peices out that you like,,figure out how much you are going to sell it for then bid to a certain amount lieving a good margin for commission and profit...

if you dont know the value of something you are bidding on you are just blind bidding,,,,,,,burny fingers time

Originally Posted by briana5125

ah the wall! i have been in plenty a bidding war with the wall and also the man at the back!

your best to go to the viewing first,then mark a few peices out that you like,,figure out how much you are going to sell it for then bid to a certain amount lieving a good margin for commission and profit...

if you dont know the value of something you are bidding on you are just blind bidding,,,,,,,burny fingers time

Yeah, I undersstand this... However, when I went to bid, everything I wanted started mid estimate or top estimate or above top estimate, leaving little if any profit margain...

Auction Houses should be sued by Trading Standards for putting LOW estimates on items just to attract a crowd.

Originally Posted by vanman

Auction Houses should be sued by Trading Standards for putting LOW estimates on items just to attract a crowd.

Really... ?

You always see that, come and buy me, like a longcase clock was marked up at £1,000 - £1,500, and it sold for £3,400...

Originally Posted by Advanced

Really... ?

You always see that, come and buy me, like a longcase clock was marked up at £1,000 - £1,500, and it sold for £3,400...

auction catalogues are a con.

In the same way The Antiques Road Show says an Item is worth £5000.

In Auction the auction catalogue would state £1000
and it would sell for £1500.

IT IS ALL TOMMY THE GUESSER

Originally Posted by vanman

auction catalogues are a con.

In the same way The Antiques Road Show says an Item is worth £5000.

In Auction the auction catalogue would state £1000
and it would sell for £1500.

IT IS ALL TOMMY THE GUESSER

It is because, they are saying full wack retail insurance price right. ?

Not trade / auction, is this right John?

Originally Posted by Advanced

It is because, they are saying full wack retail insurance price right. ?

Not trade / auction, is this right John?

I have never heard of an insurance company paying more than an item is worth,

quote from BBC's antique road show " It is worth $8000 insure it for £10,000

Originally Posted by vanman

I have never heard of an insurance company paying more than an item is worth,

quote from BBC's antique road show " It is worth $8000 insure it for £10,000

No, what I mean is Antiques Roadshow, say how much the item would be worth and insured at retial price, not the Auction / Trade price...