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    Quote Originally Posted by seivad View Post
    My first statement was in regard to the PNP's statement that asylum seekers can go to any UN office or any country's embassy to apply for asylum. I pointed out that they can't, and mentioned the UNHCR reps. in refugee camps as they also help resettle people in countries they're partnered with. If you read my earlier posts you'll see I explain to the PNP what the correct procedure at the border is.
    When western countries signed up to the UNHCR, I doubt there were as many active warzones/refugees on the march. Lately, it seems half the countries in the Middle East and Africa have had/are having a war.

    Imo, the UNHCR deal urgently wants revising, before half the worlds population decides to come. I would make a clear distinction between mass refugees from conflicts - as against individual cases where someone persons life is under permanent threat, i.e. fleeing execution from their own Govt.

    Mass refugees would receive temporary sanctuary, until their war was over, then be repatriated....Asylum would be reserved for special cases where it was clear that a person could never return home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The PNP View Post
    Have to agree with that.

    It's one thing to offer temporary shelter to people displaced due to a war, etc. Perhaps setting up suitable camps, where they can feel safe from whatever they're fleeing.....But letting in millions on a permanent basis, and granting them full EU citizenship is another thing entirely. It's undesirable and there's absolutely no need for it. Refugees should be required to go home once the fighting in their homeland has ceased.
    Christ ! I'm ill, Doctor I am agreeing with the Pnp is there a cure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The PNP View Post
    When western countries signed up to the UNHCR, I doubt there were as many active warzones/refugees on the march. Lately, it seems half the countries in the Middle East and Africa have had/are having a war.

    Imo, the UNHCR deal urgently wants revising, before half the worlds population decides to come. I would make a clear distinction between mass refugees from conflicts - as against individual cases where someone persons life is under permanent threat, i.e. fleeing execution from their own Govt.

    Mass refugees would receive temporary sanctuary, until their war was over, then be repatriated....Asylum would be reserved for special cases where it was clear that a person could never return home.
    We could prevent the Mass Refugee problem by stopping the arming of the tinpot armies and starting the wars ourselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alikado View Post
    We could prevent the Mass Refugee problem by stopping the arming of the tinpot armies and starting the wars ourselves.
    Which wars have "we" started.


    Not arming people fighting for their freedom sounds like a great plan for dictators everywhere.

    The mass of refugees from Syria is as a result of Assads brutal and deadly crackdown in 2011 on pro democracy demonstrators.

    Which has some correlations with here where anti democracy extremists are trying to frustrate the democratic process.

    I see a theme developing, you don't like democracy do you ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by local View Post
    Which wars have "we" started.


    Not arming people fighting for their freedom sounds like a great plan for dictators everywhere.

    The mass of refugees from Syria is as a result of Assads brutal and deadly crackdown in 2011 on pro democracy demonstrators.

    Which has some correlations with here where anti democracy extremists are trying to frustrate the democratic process.

    I see a theme developing, you don't like democracy do you ?
    We don't usually start wars. We interfere with other country's politics. We wait for America to start interfering in local skirmishes, then we get involved. Then Russia does. Then a civil war ensues. Eventually our troops come home in body bags.

    Historians and experts trace the origins of the Arab Spring to the US invading Iraq. The first protests in Syria were ignited by the Arab Spring. Assad starts killing his own people. Obama freezes Assad's assets. Russia gets involved. We get involved.

    We don't arm freedom fighters. There is no correlation with anything happening here. Unless you're referring to the interference of outside agencies in the referendum: the connections with the Leave.Eu campaign, Cambridge Analytica and Russia.

    We do as the US tells us. What has that got to do with democracy?

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