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    Are we all being exploited

    Other governments are using the coronavirus to intensify digital surveillance. China has deepened and extended the surveillance state that is most developed in Xinjiang, where it was used to identify some of the one million Uyghur and other Turkic Muslims for detention and forced indoctrination. South Korea has broadcast detailed and highly revealing information about people’s movements to anyone who might have had contact with them. Israel’s government has cited the coronavirus to authorize its Shin Bet internal security agency to use vast amounts of location-tracking data from the cellphones of ordinary Israelis. In Moscow, Russia is installing one of the world’s largest surveillance camera systems equipped with facial recognition technology. As occurred after September 11, 2001, it may be difficult to put the surveillance genie back in the bottle after the crisis fades.
    There is no question these are extraordinary times. International human rights law permits restrictions on liberty in times of national emergency that are necessary and proportionate. But we should be very wary of leaders who exploit this crisis to serve their political ends. They are jeopardizing both democracy and our health.

    https://www.hrw.org/news/2020/04/03/...is-grab-power#





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    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    Other governments are using the coronavirus to intensify digital surveillance. China has deepened and extended the surveillance state that is most developed in Xinjiang, where it was used to identify some of the one million Uyghur and other Turkic Muslims for detention and forced indoctrination. South Korea has broadcast detailed and highly revealing information about people’s movements to anyone who might have had contact with them. Israel’s government has cited the coronavirus to authorize its Shin Bet internal security agency to use vast amounts of location-tracking data from the cellphones of ordinary Israelis. In Moscow, Russia is installing one of the world’s largest surveillance camera systems equipped with facial recognition technology. As occurred after September 11, 2001, it may be difficult to put the surveillance genie back in the bottle after the crisis fades.
    There is no question these are extraordinary times. International human rights law permits restrictions on liberty in times of national emergency that are necessary and proportionate. But we should be very wary of leaders who exploit this crisis to serve their political ends. They are jeopardizing both democracy and our health.

    https://www.hrw.org/news/2020/04/03/...is-grab-power#
    Well, I never imagined the day that you would be quoting and linking to Human Rights Watch!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Region View Post
    Well, I never imagined the day that you would be quoting and linking to Human Rights Watch!

    I am a great believer but some people appear to have more human rights than others and this is where it fails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    Other governments are using the coronavirus to intensify digital surveillance. China has deepened and extended the surveillance state that is most developed in Xinjiang, where it was used to identify some of the one million Uyghur and other Turkic Muslims for detention and forced indoctrination. South Korea has broadcast detailed and highly revealing information about people’s movements to anyone who might have had contact with them. Israel’s government has cited the coronavirus to authorize its Shin Bet internal security agency to use vast amounts of location-tracking data from the cellphones of ordinary Israelis. In Moscow, Russia is installing one of the world’s largest surveillance camera systems equipped with facial recognition technology. As occurred after September 11, 2001, it may be difficult to put the surveillance genie back in the bottle after the crisis fades.
    There is no question these are extraordinary times. International human rights law permits restrictions on liberty in times of national emergency that are necessary and proportionate. But we should be very wary of leaders who exploit this crisis to serve their political ends. They are jeopardizing both democracy and our health.

    https://www.hrw.org/news/2020/04/03/...is-grab-power#

    Orwell was 37 years late, but fairly precise.

    The surveillance genie was out of the bottle as soon as we bought smart phones, or allow our tech devices to see or hear all. Everybody uses electronic banking, there's no choice in that.

    And who reads the T&Cs on every piece of software we use? Checks cookies? Bothers to find out how much information sites like this hold?

    The PTB know where we are, where we've been, how much we spend and, as some suspect, what we're talking about. Ever discussed a product then found an ad offering that same thing a day later? Simple answer to that is tracking. Or the Baader-Meinhof phenomenon.

    Although Alexa records everything you say. You can look it up and delete it.

    We've opened our lives to surveillance. Invited it in even. They don't need special emergency powers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty View Post
    Orwell was 37 years late, but fairly precise.

    The surveillance genie was out of the bottle as soon as we bought smart phones, or allow our tech devices to see or hear all. Everybody uses electronic banking, there's no choice in that.

    And who reads the T&Cs on every piece of software we use? Checks cookies? Bothers to find out how much information sites like this hold?

    The PTB know where we are, where we've been, how much we spend and, as some suspect, what we're talking about. Ever discussed a product then found an ad offering that same thing a day later? Simple answer to that is tracking. Or the Baader-Meinhof phenomenon.

    Although Alexa records everything you say. You can look it up and delete it.

    We've opened our lives to surveillance. Invited it in even. They don't need special emergency powers.
    Agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty View Post
    Orwell was 37 years late, but fairly precise.

    The surveillance genie was out of the bottle as soon as we bought smart phones, or allow our tech devices to see or hear all. Everybody uses electronic banking, there's no choice in that.

    And who reads the T&Cs on every piece of software we use? Checks cookies? Bothers to find out how much information sites like this hold?

    The PTB know where we are, where we've been, how much we spend and, as some suspect, what we're talking about. Ever discussed a product then found an ad offering that same thing a day later? Simple answer to that is tracking. Or the Baader-Meinhof phenomenon.

    Although Alexa records everything you say. You can look it up and delete it.

    We've opened our lives to surveillance. Invited it in even. They don't need special emergency powers.
    It began long before smart phones. Passports, visas, Credit/Debit cards, insurance, driving licences, television licenses, health cards etc., The UK is said to be the most surveilled country in the World apart from China.

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