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    Bringing back an extinct species - good idea?

    The thylacine or tasmanian tiger was made extinct by humans less than 100 yrs ago. An attempt is apparently underway to resurrect it. I have always found its demise particularly tragic, and there is a film of the last known surviving one - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gt0X-27GXM

    I will follow this story with interest.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australi...asmanian-tiger
     

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    Interesting story, and one I’ll also be following.
    My main concern is does the planet have the resources to support these animals making a comeback to lead any kind of natural life without too much human intervention?
    Bringing back these animals would obviously make them targets for poachers and ‘collectors’. Wouldn’t we just be condemning them to a lifetime of being sad zoo exhibits?

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    Or even worse, resurrecting them from the dead to end up on the dinner table?

    Woolly mammoths are making a comeback. Should we eat them?
    https://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-b2142058.html

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    Its already happened !

    'Some' posters on this forum have been made 'extinct' and have now been resurrected

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    Fascinating stuff. I read the link and was surprised to see it's a marsupial.

    I think it's a great idea. We've already lost far too many creatures due to man. The current deforestation of ancient forests for crops, and, even worse, to burn in a heartbeat in Drax's furnaces, is endangering even more native species. Add to this the devastating wildfires that are killing wildlife. How long before they become endangered or extinct? I can't even bear to think about what we might lose.

    The worst species ever to live on this planet, is man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seivad View Post
    Fascinating stuff. I read the link and was surprised to see it's a marsupial.
    It's just one example of convergent evolution. It occupies the same ecological niche in Australia as other top-level predators in other continents, tigers etc.

    I would love to see its return, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donkey22 View Post
    Interesting story, and one I’ll also be following.
    My main concern is does the planet have the resources to support these animals making a comeback to lead any kind of natural life without too much human intervention?
    Bringing back these animals would obviously make them targets for poachers and ‘collectors’. Wouldn’t we just be condemning them to a lifetime of being sad zoo exhibits?
    It is interesting, and I think you're correct about their eventual worth.

    It would be nice to see so many species alive and well in their natural habitat. But we'd just do the same to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seivad View Post

    I think it's a great idea. We've already lost far too many creatures due to man. The current deforestation of ancient forests for crops, and, even worse, to burn in a heartbeat in Drax's furnaces, is endangering even more native species. Add to this the devastating wildfires that are killing wildlife. How long before they become endangered or extinct? I can't even bear to think about what we might lose.

    The worst species ever to live on this planet, is man.
    …a harsh judgement though doubtless shared by many, if expressed in different ways.

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    Extinctions now 1,000 times faster than before humans

    Humankind is not the first species to endanger its existence by over-exploitation. However, humankind is unprecedentedly exceptional both in
    • having occupied (almost) every conceivable niche; and
    • having developed ingenious technologies to spectacularly amplify its impact.
    Scientists tell as we are destroying environments and otherwise expediting species' extinction at an high and accelerating rate! We must drastically amend our destructive ways vis-à-vis existing species before we need think about reviving aleady extinct species.

    "Granted, extinction is a phenomenon that occurs naturally, however it normally happens at a rate of 1 to 5 species every year. But, as scientists estimate, we are currently losing species 1,000-10,000 times faster than that, which means that literally tens of species are vanishing from the face of the Earth every day."

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandGroundZero View Post
    Extinctions now 1,000 times faster than before humans
    And it's not just animals, but also plants that we're losing....Some of which may well contain unique substances that could be of great value, e.g. in medicines, etc.
    On Yer Bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The PNP View Post
    And it's not just animals, but also plants that we're losing....Some of which may well contain unique substances that could be of great value, e.g. in medicines, etc.
    There is a gigantic seed bunker in Kew Gardens. It contains a stunning number of seeds from an incredible number of species. If they get a seed sample, really rare plants can be grown from them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirac View Post
    There is a gigantic seed bunker in Kew Gardens. It contains a stunning number of seeds from an incredible number of species. If they get a seed sample, really rare plants can be grown from them.
    Think I heard about that, also another one under a mountain/in a mine or something. There are though plants I believe, whose seed has to be planted every few years, or they will fail.
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    the reaaerection of politicos of truth integrity and humble serving of humantys futures wellbeing ,would be the greatest use of this technology

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamyramy View Post
    the reaaerection of politicos of truth integrity and humble serving of humantys futures wellbeing ,would be the greatest use of this technology
    Now that is something worth waiting for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirac View Post
    It's just one example of convergent evolution. It occupies the same ecological niche in Australia as other top-level predators in other continents, tigers etc.

    I would love to see its return, too.
    Convergent evolution is seriously flawed. Try divergent evolution. e.g Finch, Pigeon, Plants, and viruses etc.,.


    "Recent evidence indicates that, contrary to a commonly held belief, T cells and B cells do not share an immediate common ancestor, but differentiate from myeloid-T and myeloid-B progenitors, respectively.149,150 If T cells and B cells are distantly related as suggested by these studies, it is not surprising if the two lineages of lymphoid cells diverged at an earlier stage in evolution than previously thought."151Masanori Kasahara, in Progress in Molecular Biology and Translational Science, 2010

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty View Post
    It is interesting, and I think you're correct about their eventual worth.

    It would be nice to see so many species alive and well in their natural habitat. But we'd just do the same to them.

    A huge number of the population do not have a clue as to how many species of wildlife there are in the world, much less be able to differentiate the different species and understand them. Hell,look how many idiots own dogs and put them in pushchairs to give them a walk, or spoil the dog with food so it is overweight, or wrap it up and treat it like a baby. A dog is a dog of the canine species, with canine needs and characteristics, it is not of the human species and can never become a human. Now imagine one of these idiots owning an alligator? Or even a bison? and trying to humanise it.



    Not to mention that much of human life would also come under a threat in the future with the present applications to lifestyles. How many people would be able to exist if forced to live on an island on their own? Since so many people have been wrapped in cotton wool for all their lives - I doubt if many could.

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