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    Facial Recognition Metropolitan Police

    Since 2015, the London Metropolitan Police have been using Facial Recognition software. So far for capability only, this has cost around £300K.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/d415...&sf242397748=1


    It is software that measures various parts of a face instantaneously to register a match. Out of 42 initial test cases, fewer than 25% registered as a match.

    https://www.met.police.uk/SysSiteAss...ition-software

    Is this an unnecessary expense? Humans are far more efficient than a computer in being able to recognise people? In a crowded situation where people are constantly moving surely it would be almost impossible - whereas humans react by their own instinct.

    But by combining this with other technological advances:
    "Technological solutions to monitor socialdistancing compliance need to satisfy certain criteriato justify the benefits of their implementation. Such asolution should be fast enough to work with real-timevideo feeds so that timely interventions may beundertaken if the situation demands. The detectionalgorithm should be robust enough to work accuratelyunder different situations like occlusions occurring insomewhat crowded scenes or detect peopleirrespective of their poses. ."https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/2104/2104.10891.pdf

    Is this not a greater invasion into personal freedom by Big Brother? We should all be looking not at what a tool is intended for, but what that tool is capable of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    It is software that measures various parts of a face instantaneously to register a match. Out of 42 initial test cases, fewer than 25% registered as a match.
    With masks everywhere, that figure doesn't surprise me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    Since 2015, the London Metropolitan Police have been using Facial Recognition software. So far for capability only, this has cost around £300K.

    It is software that measures various parts of a face instantaneously to register a match. Out of 42 initial test cases, fewer than 25% registered as a match.

    https://www.met.police.uk/SysSiteAss...ition-software

    Is this an unnecessary expense? Humans are far more efficient than a computer in being able to recognise people? In a crowded situation where people are constantly moving surely it would be almost impossible - whereas humans react by their own instinct.
    Thinking through the implementation of that idea is hysterical! Very enjoyable!

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    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    Since 2015, the London Metropolitan Police have been using Facial Recognition software. So far for capability only, this has cost around £300K.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/d415...&sf242397748=1


    It is software that measures various parts of a face instantaneously to register a match. Out of 42 initial test cases, fewer than 25% registered as a match.

    https://www.met.police.uk/SysSiteAss...ition-software

    Is this an unnecessary expense? Humans are far more efficient than a computer in being able to recognise people? In a crowded situation where people are constantly moving surely it would be almost impossible - whereas humans react by their own instinct.

    But by combining this with other technological advances:
    "Technological solutions to monitor socialdistancing compliance need to satisfy certain criteriato justify the benefits of their implementation. Such asolution should be fast enough to work with real-timevideo feeds so that timely interventions may beundertaken if the situation demands. The detectionalgorithm should be robust enough to work accuratelyunder different situations like occlusions occurring insomewhat crowded scenes or detect peopleirrespective of their poses. ."https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/2104/2104.10891.pdf

    Is this not a greater invasion into personal freedom by Big Brother? We should all be looking not at what a tool is intended for, but what that tool is capable of.
    Actually it has been proved many times that humans are rubbish at recognising faces and particularly bad at describing them, especially after an extreme situation such as a crash or robbery. There are so-called super identifiers who the police use but they are exceptionally good at recognising faces and quite rare. If they train the AI recognition algorithms, which are capable of learning, they will soon be very good indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    Since 2015, the London Metropolitan Police have been using Facial Recognition software. So far for capability only, this has cost around £300K.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/d415...&sf242397748=1


    It is software that measures various parts of a face instantaneously to register a match. Out of 42 initial test cases, fewer than 25% registered as a match.

    https://www.met.police.uk/SysSiteAss...ition-software

    Is this an unnecessary expense? Humans are far more efficient than a computer in being able to recognise people? In a crowded situation where people are constantly moving surely it would be almost impossible - whereas humans react by their own instinct.

    But by combining this with other technological advances:
    "Technological solutions to monitor socialdistancing compliance need to satisfy certain criteriato justify the benefits of their implementation. Such asolution should be fast enough to work with real-timevideo feeds so that timely interventions may beundertaken if the situation demands. The detectionalgorithm should be robust enough to work accuratelyunder different situations like occlusions occurring insomewhat crowded scenes or detect peopleirrespective of their poses. ."https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/2104/2104.10891.pdf

    Is this not a greater invasion into personal freedom by Big Brother? We should all be looking not at what a tool is intended for, but what that tool is capable of.


    Did you get into Nature Magazine after I gave you a few links?

    Perhaps you might take the opportunity to read about masks and virus recognition whilst your on their site it will help you a lot?

    As to facial recognition it's already a huge improvement over people and getting better all the time.

    Most of us are already "in the system" you included.

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    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    Since 2015, the London Metropolitan Police have been using Facial Recognition software. So far for capability only, this has cost around £300K.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/d415...&sf242397748=1


    It is software that measures various parts of a face instantaneously to register a match. Out of 42 initial test cases, fewer than 25% registered as a match.

    https://www.met.police.uk/SysSiteAss...ition-software

    Is this an unnecessary expense? Humans are far more efficient than a computer in being able to recognise people? In a crowded situation where people are constantly moving surely it would be almost impossible - whereas humans react by their own instinct.
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    But by combining this with other technological advances:
    "Technological solutions to monitor socialdistancing compliance need to satisfy certain criteriato justify the benefits of their implementation. Such asolution should be fast enough to work with real-timevideo feeds so that timely interventions may beundertaken if the situation demands. The detectionalgorithm should be robust enough to work accuratelyunder different situations like occlusions occurring insomewhat crowded scenes or detect peopleirrespective of their poses. ."https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/2104/2104.10891.pdf

    Is this not a greater invasion into personal freedom by Big Brother? We should all be looking not at what a tool is intended for, but what that tool is capable of.
    As humans we are particularly poor at recognising faces, that is those of people we don't know. It's been proved that we give multiple descriptions of the same person, more so in incidents.

    Facial recognition software is designed to recognise features as humans we can't spot such as distance between the eyes, chin structure, cheek bones.

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