Thank God

[greenmachine]

Thank God we voted to get out of the E U. Our kids and grandkids will be paying for this one way or another for the next 30 years. At least they wont be carrying France Spain and Italy plus quite a few other non nett contributers to the E U money box.

[said]

Thank God we voted to get out of the E U. Our kids and grandkids will be paying for this one way or another for the next 30 years. At least they wont be carrying France Spain and Italy plus quite a few other non nett contributers to the E U money box.

True! We have opted out of carrying financial baggage - but the global economy was on a downturn even before this outbreak. In the USA, several banks have gone bust, and there have been many lay offs in labour because there is insufficient pension funds for those employed. America was in trade disputes with China which resulted in hefty tariffs on goods on both sides. It is quite probable that in a concerted effort to regain balance after the virus - these tariffs will be dropped, and certain goods will become cheaper to buy. The EU has not supported its member countries over the outbreak, rather allowing each sovereignty to allocate its own measures - this has brought massive hardship to those countries which were already struggling. The EU will be hard pushed to demand membership fees from most of its members. Germany's industry was on a severe slide downwards, which evolved due to its trade imbalance which left many struggling members a lot worse off financially and caused a down turn of the Euro. So I think you are right - we are on the better side - temporarily. No doubt we will be supported by the USA, who has had to incorporate quantitative easing once again, and there are several wealthy funding agencies which help to support pandemic issues. Fingers crossed - we will most certainly be able to revive faster independently as opposed to being part of a massive pie.

[silver fox]

True! We have opted out of carrying financial baggage - but the global economy was on a downturn even before this outbreak. In the USA, several banks have gone bust, and there have been many lay offs in labour because there is insufficient pension funds for those employed. America was in trade disputes with China which resulted in hefty tariffs on goods on both sides. It is quite probable that in a concerted effort to regain balance after the virus - these tariffs will be dropped, and certain goods will become cheaper to buy. The EU has not supported its member countries over the outbreak, rather allowing each sovereignty to allocate its own measures - this has brought massive hardship to those countries which were already struggling. The EU will be hard pushed to demand membership fees from most of its members. Germany's industry was on a severe slide downwards, which evolved due to its trade imbalance which left many struggling members a lot worse off financially and caused a down turn of the Euro. So I think you are right - we are on the better side - temporarily. No doubt we will be supported by the USA, who has had to incorporate quantitative easing once again, and there are several wealthy funding agencies which help to support pandemic issues. Fingers crossed - we will most certainly be able to revive faster independently as opposed to being part of a massive pie.

Hate to burst your bubble, but our economy was already on a downturn before the epidemic, as to the aftermath it's anyone's guess as to how it will all pan out, wouldn't bank on support from the USA nor indeed anyone else.

This epidemic will either strengthen or weaken the EU, possibly even to break up, that again is anyone's guess at the moment, love your naive belief that wealthy funding agencies will provide, these agencies will act only to their own benefit, always have, always will.

[Toodles McGinty]

Ah, there's that 'knows the cost of everything and value of nothing' thing again.

We apparently want 'sovereignty', yet the EU is wrong when it gives members 'sovereignty'?

I thought you wanted us to stand on our own two feet, to be captains of our own ship. On our own out there. Why then would we need help from the USA?

If you think things are bad now, wait until Brexit. Then we'll find out if leaving the EU was such a good idea.

[said]

Hate to burst your bubble, but our economy was already on a downturn before the epidemic, as to the aftermath it's anyone's guess as to how it will all pan out, wouldn't bank on support from the USA nor indeed anyone else.

This epidemic will either strengthen or weaken the EU, possibly even to break up, that again is anyone's guess at the moment, love your naive belief that wealthy funding agencies will provide, these agencies will act only to their own benefit, always have, always will.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKCN21R1N9

[seivad]

No doubt we will be supported by the USA, who has had to incorporate quantitative easing once again,

Are you out of your ever loving mind? The US will be on the bones of its a ss when this is over, as will we all. What on earth makes you think that they will "support" you? First and foremost they have to help themselves to recover. Even if they had the resources, which they won't, it would be political suicide to support other nations when their country is in dire straits.

and there are several wealthy funding agencies which help to support pandemic issues. Fingers crossed - we will most certainly be able to revive faster independently as opposed to being part of a massive pie.

Those "wealthy funding agencies" are there to support developing countries who do not have the resources to combat the pandemic, not to bail out developed Western countries.

[Nashwan]

Firstly, unless you can come up with a scintilla of evidence for there being a god, I'll stick to dealing with real things.

Also, your kids and grandkids voted to remain as part of the EU. They are the ones who will be left to cope with the consequences of the selfish older generation whose rose-tinted view of the Britain of yesteryear and generally more conservative outlook led to the leave vote.

How many of you with grandkids actually asked their opinion before voting? They are the ones who will have the bulk of their life to live under these changes.

At least that extra £350m per week should fund plenty of ventilators and PPE I suppose.

[said]

Ah, there's that 'knows the cost of everything and value of nothing' thing again.

We apparently want 'sovereignty', yet the EU is wrong when it gives members 'sovereignty'?

I thought you wanted us to stand on our own two feet, to be captains of our own ship. On our own out there. Why then would we need help from the USA?

If you think things are bad now, wait until Brexit. Then we'll find out if leaving the EU was such a good idea.

May I suggest you get a copy of the following and read it -

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Great-Decep.../dp/1472939662

[said]

Firstly, unless you can come up with a scintilla of evidence for there being a god, I'll stick to dealing with real things.

Also, your kids and grandkids voted to remain as part of the EU. They are the ones who will be left to cope with the consequences of the selfish older generation whose rose-tinted view of the Britain of yesteryear and generally more conservative outlook led to the leave vote.

How many of you with grandkids actually asked their opinon before voting? They are the ones who will have the bulk of their life to live under these changes.

At least that extra £350m per week should fund plenty of ventilators and PPE I suppose.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Great-Decep.../dp/1472939662 - Get a copy and read it!

[Toodles McGinty]

May I suggest you get a copy of the following and read it -

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Great-Decep.../dp/1472939662

May I suggest you read something with a more balanced, nuanced viewpoint. Rather than the usual 'I hate the EU / Greta Thunberg / Climate Change / Civil Servants / Libertarian bull*****?

[Ceam]

Thank God we voted to get out of the E U. Our kids and grandkids will be paying for this one way or another for the next 30 years. At least they wont be carrying France Spain and Italy plus quite a few other non nett contributers to the E U money box.

Unreal...……….

self-centred, vile creature.

[Ceam]

One thing I have noted over all this.
Farms are crapping themselves as the usual E.U. work force can't get over here to help with the crops... Could be interesting to see what further our economy has after we actually leave.

[Toodles McGinty]

One thing I have noted over all this.
Farms are crapping themselves as the usual E.U. work force can't get over here to help with the crops... Could be interesting to see what further our economy has after we actually leave.

I read somewhere that farms are asking for 'healthy' volunteers to help out with spring crops. Must be the fastest swing from 'leave' to remain' going if the news clips I saw is anything to go by.

Also read the government has no intention of asking for an extension to the transition period by June. Considering this mess isn't going to go away for a long time, then we'll have Brexit on top of it, at least it's a solution to stockpiling. If there is little in the shops but a few scabby potatoes next January, there's nothing to panic buy.

[Lorquinho]

Health care professionals would be in a better position regarding PPE had we stayed or even bothered to join the discussions during the transition period.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...o-bulk-buy-ppe

[greenmachine]

Unreal...……….

self-centred, vile creature.

Strange comment from someone with the strapline
"Family First. Last. Always "