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    An interesting development reported by Reuters news agency
    After retesting samples, French hospital discovers COVID-19 case from December — it appears that a case of COVID-19 appeared in France in late December!





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    Quote Originally Posted by sandGroundZero View Post
    An interesting development reported by Reuters news agency
    After retesting samples, French hospital discovers COVID-19 case from December — it appears that a case of COVID-19 appeared in France in late December!
    The likely source still points to China, but the Chinese authorities were slow to declare just what was happening, whether this was by design or not knowing themselves is very much the real question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver fox View Post
    The likely source still points to China, but the Chinese authorities were slow to declare just what was happening, whether this was by design or not knowing themselves is very much the real question.
    No Country is ever totally honest but countries pointing the finger with false accusations to score points doesn't help, We will probably never know and people who do know will be silenced by being bought off or 'disappeared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alikado View Post
    No Country is ever totally honest but countries pointing the finger with false accusations to score points doesn't help, We will probably never know and people who do know will be silenced by being bought off or 'disappeared.
    Allegedly one doctor who revealed the true nature of the "pneumonia" was silenced, whether permanently or not I don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver fox View Post
    Allegedly one doctor who revealed the true nature of the "pneumonia" was silenced, whether permanently or not I don't know.
    THREE have fallen out windows in Russia !

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandGroundZero View Post
    An interesting development reported by Reuters news agency
    After retesting samples, French hospital discovers COVID-19 case from December — it appears that a case of COVID-19 appeared in France in late December!
    In the light of your stated desire for Communist China to be appeased and for Xi Jinping to be conciliated, your post reads as a frisson of your excitement at the fledgling prospect of a Covid origin theory being centred in France!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Region View Post
    In the light of your stated desire for Communist China to be appeased and for Xi Jinping to be conciliated, your post reads as a frisson of your excitement at the fledgling prospect of a Covid origin theory being centred in France!
    Surely not a Republic?
    I think he is throwing you a red herring.

    Officially....

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    "On 31 December 2019, WHO was informed of cases of pneumonia of unknown cause in Wuhan City, China. A novel coronavirus was identified as the cause by Chinese authorities on 7 January 2020 and was temporarily named “2019-nCoV”.

    Coronaviruses (CoV) are a large family of viruses that cause illness ranging from the common cold to more severe diseases. A novel coronavirus (nCoV) is a new strain that has not been previously identified in humans. The new virus was subsequently named the “COVID-19 virus”.

    On 30 January 2020, Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, WHO Director-General declared the novel coronavirus outbreak a public health emergency of international concern (PHEIC), WHO's highest level of alarm. At that time there were 98 cases and no deaths in 18 countries outside China."


    The first case recorded out of China was in Thailand.


    https://www.who.int/news/item/27-04-...ine---covid-19

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hector View Post
    https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/co...1c0e96ad17da60

    The link above was found by Local and posted on the 'Mad Trump' thread.

    I have posted it here on a new thread so we can stay on topic.

    I have to say that a virus of this seeming ferocity and deadliness could well have been given a human helping hand. Does Local's Torygraph link provide evidence?

    Like any laboratory in a secure unit is going to open it's doors wide to reveal an illegal research - if as it is claimed whistle blowers quietly disappeared, then do you honestly think that Chinese authorities would allow the world to see what they do not want them to see?

    Our media is controlled by the US - would it surprise you to know that the US also researched into the contagion of viruses via animals? Including bats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    Like any laboratory in a secure unit is going to open it's doors wide to reveal an illegal research - if as it is claimed whistle blowers quietly disappeared, then do you honestly think that Chinese authorities would allow the world to see what they do not want them to see?

    Our media is controlled by the US - would it surprise you to know that the US also researched into the contagion of viruses via animals? Including bats.
    As a dedicated Covid denier, you have no real interest in the lab leak theory, which is why you've never shown any previous interest in the theory. Indeed, how could you have concerned yourself with the 'leak' of something that you don't believe exists?

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    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    Like any laboratory in a secure unit is going to open it's doors wide to reveal an illegal research - if as it is claimed whistle blowers quietly disappeared, then do you honestly think that Chinese authorities would allow the world to see what they do not want them to see?
    I find the 'lab leak' to be by far the most likely source of Covid.....Wuhan is where Covid first appeared and is also - surprise surprise - where the suspect lab is located. If it didn't leak from that lab, it's an incredible coincidence that Covid 'evolved' within a few miles of the very lab that was experimenting with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The PNP View Post
    I find the 'lab leak' to be by far the most likely source of Covid.....Wuhan is where Covid first appeared and is also - surprise surprise - where the suspect lab is located. If it didn't leak from that lab, it's an incredible coincidence that Covid 'evolved' within a few miles of the very lab that was experimenting with it.
    I don't think the Italian connection can be ignored, it was discovered there very early and was the first place it went rampant neither can the imported Pangolin from the Philippines be discounted either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alikado View Post
    I don't think the Italian connection can be ignored, it was discovered there very early and was the first place it went rampant neither can the imported Pangolin from the Philippines be discounted either.
    Poor things, it's hard to think of a less offensive creature...Why can't these people leave pangolins alone to get on with their pangolin lives in peace, rathe than killing and pulling the scales off them?

    Imo, since pangolins have been a part of Chinese medicine for thousands of years, it's mighty curious how they have only now transmitted Covid to humans. And that just as a lab is experimenting with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alikado View Post
    I don't think the Italian connection can be ignored, it was discovered there very early and was the first place it went rampant neither can the imported Pangolin from the Philippines be discounted either.
    Regards the China-to-Italy connection, I posted a video, Italian residents hug Chinese people to encourage them in coronavirus fight, in post #88 of the Trump And The Chaina Virus thread, a YouTube video uploaded by CGTN, China Global Television Network, which is owned by the Chinese state media China Central Television, under the control of the Propaganda Department of the Chinese Communist Party.

    Here's a very similar one, entitled Passersby give Chinese girl hugs in Milan, also never once been taken down from YouTube, also uploaded in early February 2020, by New China TV, a division of Xinhua, the official state-run press agency of the People's Republic of China, founded by the Chinese Communist Party.



    Xinhua is a ministry-level institution subordinate to the State Council and is the highest ranking state media organ in the country alongside the People's Daily. He Ping, President of Xinhua, is a member of the Central Committee of the Chinese Communist Party.

    Xinhua is a major channel for the distribution of news related to the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) and Chinese central government and its headquarters in Beijing are strategically located close to the central government's headquarters at Zhongnanhai.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinhua_News_Agency

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alikado View Post
    I don't think the Italian connection can be ignored, it was discovered there very early and was the first place it went rampant neither can the imported Pangolin from the Philippines be discounted either.
    Yes, it was claimed that Chinese immigrant workers returning from the Chinese New Year celebrations in China, had been the cause. Except that they got the date of the Chinese New Year wrong and that the migrant workers had not yet returned back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alikado View Post
    I don't think the Italian connection can be ignored, it was discovered there very early and was the first place it went rampant...
    I'm surprised by the readiness of posters on this thread to suggest that Covid's origins lie in EU member states rather than in China.

    I must have underestimated the appeal of the Chinese Communist Party.

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