Trump or Corbyn?

[Hamble]

Of the two evils whose politics would be a greater threat to you?


Corbyn.

This is one circumstance Corbyn gets my vote.

[Mr B S Sniffer]

Dumb or Dumber, great choice

Although Trump wants the NHS

[Hamble]

Dumb or Dumber, great choice

Although Trump wants the NHS

Good.
The EU inflates the cost of drugs and is blackmailing with threats in supply shortages.

[seivad]

Good.
The EU inflates the cost of drugs and is blackmailing with threats in supply shortages.

Have you seen the price of prescription drugs in the US? Although it's not supposed to be legal, many Americans buy them online from Canada. Those living close to the border hop on over and fill their prescriptions at Canadian drug stores.

For US vs UK drug prices, take a boo at this:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...gs/?redirect=1

[seivad]

Of the two evils whose politics would be a greater threat to you?


Corbyn.

This is one circumstance Corbyn gets my vote.

Neither one is the leader of the UK, and only one has the possibility of ever being leader, so it has to be Corbyn.

[said]

Of the two evils whose politics would be a greater threat to you?


Corbyn.

This is one circumstance Corbyn gets my vote.

As people - neither! In the positions they hold, Trump has limited powers as an American president, he is mainly the mouthpiece of congress. But the American policies at present are very dangerous to World economics and for that matter - peace. The US has always used dollars to pay for World peace and global trade, now the US is attempting to use tariffs to protect its internal trade. This will result in obvious repercussions.
As for Corbyn - he is rather like a weed that bends in the direction of the wind. He appears to have absolutely no plan of action nor how to go about getting one. His only solution is to throw a rod in the spokes of wheels. Rather like his cohort Abbot. They both appear to be well in above their heads.
Since World trade is what it will be - and that the Labour Party has achieved sweet FA since Corbyn was elected - then still, neither!

[seivad]

As people - neither! In the positions they hold, Trump has limited powers as an American president, he is mainly the mouthpiece of congress.

The mouthpiece of the House of Representatives... really? Democrats have the majority in the House.

Republicans have the majority in the Senate. However Trump isn't anyone's mouthpiece. He's a one man administration whose only policy is to keep the support of his core base. He's like an unruly child who won't be told by anyone.

Since World trade is what it will be - and that the Labour Party has achieved sweet FA since Corbyn was elected - then still, neither!

Labour are the opposition party, exactly what would you expect them to have achieved?

[said]

Have you seen the price of prescription drugs in the US? Although it's not supposed to be legal, many Americans buy them online from Canada. Those living close to the border hop on over and fill their prescriptions at Canadian drug stores.

For US vs UK drug prices, take a boo at this:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...gs/?redirect=1

For a long time now there have been many reports of prescription drug abuse in the USA. It happens everywhere, but in the States it is much greater.
Drugwatch reports:
Americans account for 99 percent of the world’s hydrocodone (Vicodin) consumption, 80 percent of the world’s oxycodone (Percocet and Oxycontin) consumption and 65 percent of the world’s hydromorphone (Dilaudid) consumption, according to the New York Times.

• An estimated 52 million Americans use prescription drugs for nonmedical reasons at least once in their lifetimes – with some using prescription drugs for recreational purposes
• Deaths by overdoses involving prescription painkillers quadrupled since 1999
• Every day, about 50 Americans die from prescription painkiller overdoses
• Every year, prescription painkillers cause more than 16,000 deaths and 475,000 emergency room visits.

[Hamble]

Have you seen the price of prescription drugs in the US? Although it's not supposed to be legal, many Americans buy them online from Canada. Those living close to the border hop on over and fill their prescriptions at Canadian drug stores.

For US vs UK drug prices, take a boo at this:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...gs/?redirect=1

Are those drugs made in the UK and exported and sold to private buyers?

Trump has a proposal for drug price.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-price-address

[seivad]

For a long time now there have been many reports of prescription drug abuse in the USA. It happens everywhere, but in the States it is much greater.
Drugwatch reports:
Americans account for 99 percent of the world’s hydrocodone (Vicodin) consumption, 80 percent of the world’s oxycodone (Percocet and Oxycontin) consumption and 65 percent of the world’s hydromorphone (Dilaudid) consumption, according to the New York Times.

• An estimated 52 million Americans use prescription drugs for nonmedical reasons at least once in their lifetimes – with some using prescription drugs for recreational purposes
• Deaths by overdoses involving prescription painkillers quadrupled since 1999
• Every day, about 50 Americans die from prescription painkiller overdoses
• Every year, prescription painkillers cause more than 16,000 deaths and 475,000 emergency room visits.

This is what happens when health care is an industry.

[Hamble]

Neither one is the leader of the UK, and only one has the possibility of ever being leader, so it has to be Corbyn.

Fair enough.Trumps policy's affect you in Canada Corbyn's affect me in the UK.

[seivad]

Are those drugs made in the UK and exported and sold to private buyers?

I believe that most of your drugs are imported from the EU. The US does export some drugs to the UK, but I don't know what or how much.

The US doesn't have universal health care, so all drugs are bought by businesses... and don't forget that most hospitals are businesses too.

If the US wants drugs to be on the table in future trade negotiations, they're more likely to want to buy drugs from the UK

[Toodles McGinty]

Of the two evils whose politics would be a greater threat to you?


Corbyn.

This is one circumstance Corbyn gets my vote.

Corbyn isn't a threat to anyone. He isn't the Prime Minister. Nor is he likely to be anytime soon. A new leader of the Labour party would be a threat to the Tory party, although they are in such disarray they appear to be their own worst enemy.

Trump is only a threat if we allow him to be. As a current member of the EU, he's no threat at all. Unless he drags us into more conflict. But again he's very insular, so he might rattle a few sabres, but I don't see him in any rush to war.

If we have to go cap in hand for trade deals, then he becomes dangerous. He's obsessed with 'the deal' and being seen as a hard nosed businessman, despite his bankruptcies. I don't see him allowing us to come out on top of any negotiations. Having said that, we could be talking to an entirely different President by that time.

[Hamble]

As people - neither! In the positions they hold, Trump has limited powers as an American president, he is mainly the mouthpiece of congress. But the American policies at present are very dangerous to World economics and for that matter - peace. The US has always used dollars to pay for World peace and global trade, now the US is attempting to use tariffs to protect its internal trade. This will result in obvious repercussions.
As for Corbyn - he is rather like a weed that bends in the direction of the wind. He appears to have absolutely no plan of action nor how to go about getting one. His only solution is to throw a rod in the spokes of wheels. Rather like his cohort Abbot. They both appear to be well in above their heads.
Since World trade is what it will be - and that the Labour Party has achieved sweet FA since Corbyn was elected - then still, neither!

Would you be affected personally by Corbyn as a politician?

In previous years I (we) although have a political party preference who ever got in power did not affect our lives security wise.

Financially whatever party was 'swings and roundabouts' taking with one giving with another equally with both Labour and Tory apart from New Labour which gave a big pay rise and hiked taxes which enable us(and many like) to work part time on a higher wage within a lower tax band than being penalised for working full time plus unpaid overtime.

Corbyn and the nites are a different proposition security wise.
Financially would not affect us.

[Hamble]

Corbyn isn't a threat to anyone. He isn't the Prime Minister. Nor is he likely to be anytime soon. A new leader of the Labour party would be a threat to the Tory party, although they are in such disarray they appear to be their own worst enemy.

Trump is only a threat if we allow him to be. As a current member of the EU, he's no threat at all. Unless he drags us into more conflict. But again he's very insular, so he might rattle a few sabres, but I don't see him in any rush to war.

If we have to go cap in hand for trade deals, then he becomes dangerous. He's obsessed with 'the deal' and being seen as a hard nosed businessman, despite his bankruptcies. I don't see him allowing us to come out on top of any negotiations. Having said that, we could be talking to an entirely different President by that time.

You still voted for him?