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  1. Published on: 14/09/2020 09:12 AMReported by: roving-eye
    The No Entry sign that was placed at the junction of Queens Road and Manchester Road has vanished. The sign was placed there on Friday meaning that people who live on Queens Road would face a detour to get home in their vehicles.
      

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  3. Little Londoner says:14/09/2020 09:48 AM
    Should there not be any consultation before the morons start closing roads and catering for boozers being able to sit in the road or has Pnp found an equally idiotic fool on the council who's hear he can whisper sweet nothings into and brainwash him. Perhaps he may be amiable to allowing him to lick his rectum too.

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  5. Sap33 says:14/09/2020 12:29 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Little Londoner View Post
    Should there not be any consultation before the morons start closing roads and catering for boozers being able to sit in the road or has Pnp found an equally idiotic fool on the council who's hear he can whisper sweet nothings into and brainwash him. Perhaps he may be amiable to allowing him to lick his rectum too.
    'Catering for boozers being able to sit in the road' is to do with local businesses being able to operate and stay open rather than having to close forever.

    (I also think you mean 'ear' rather than 'hear', perhaps grammar is another topic we can discuss while you're showing me what a good driver you are?)

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  7. clive764 says:14/09/2020 12:34 PM
    Interesting that this morning (Monday) several cars still parking on the marked cycle lane on Talbot Street (Duke Street to Belmont Street).
    Obviously ignorant of the law, and I would expect some ticketing in the next few days.

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  9. Alikado says:14/09/2020 01:20 PM
    Remove the sign and if there is an accident it is on your conscience.

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  11. bensherman says:14/09/2020 01:43 PM
    No entry sign at Talbot/Belmont also gone.
    Cycle lanes on both sides so space to operate two-way is reduced.
    Also cars parked in the cycle lanes.

  12. Sap33 says:14/09/2020 01:57 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by bensherman View Post
    No entry sign at Talbot/Belmont also gone.
    Cycle lanes on both sides so space to operate two-way is reduced.
    Also cars parked in the cycle lanes.
    Any idea when the scheme goes live?

    Have they done a test fit and then removed them? In the past, I've seen speed limit signs fitted and then taped or painted over until the restrictions go live.

  13. clive764 says:14/09/2020 02:55 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Sap33 View Post
    Any idea when the scheme goes live?

    Have they done a test fit and then removed them? In the past, I've seen speed limit signs fitted and then taped or painted over until the restrictions go live.
    It is "live". There are clearly marked cycles lanes. If motorists choose to park in them they will be ticketed.

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  15. TDM900 says:14/09/2020 05:58 PM
    What a load of rubbish, Queens Road has been 2 way for decades, why change it now for a few cyclists. And when winter comes there will be even less of them. So why inconvenience the many for the sake of a very few. Government/Council gone mad.

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  17. sandGroundZero says:14/09/2020 08:15 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by clive764 View Post
    It is "live". There are clearly marked cycles lanes. If motorists choose to park in them they will be ticketed.
    ex: Highway Code
    140. Cycle lanes. These are shown by road markings and signs.
    You MUST NOT drive or park in a cycle lane marked by a solid white line during its times of operation. Do not drive or park in a cycle lane marked by a broken white line unless it is unavoidable.
    You MUST NOT park in any cycle lane whilst waiting restrictions apply.
    Law RTRA sects 5 & 8

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  19. Little Londoner says:15/09/2020 07:51 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Sap33 View Post
    'Catering for boozers being able to sit in the road' is to do with local businesses being able to operate and stay open rather than having to close forever.

    (I also think you mean 'ear' rather than 'hear', perhaps grammar is another topic we can discuss while you're showing me what a good driver you are?)
    Yes I did, how silly of me feeding pedants.

    Well there are plenty of businesses on Lord St selling food and drink perhaps they should spread across the road also Liverpool Rd Birkdale and Ainsdale Station Rd. What a way to entice custom by taking away parking for visitors/shoppers/diners.

    Nothing wrong with being a good driver it allows you to be able to avoid the idiots who seem to have a monopoly on the use of our roads (that is the ones that aren't changed at the drop of a hat without consultation).

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  21. Sap33 says:15/09/2020 09:45 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Little Londoner View Post
    Yes I did, how silly of me feeding pedants.

    Well there are plenty of businesses on Lord St selling food and drink perhaps they should spread across the road also Liverpool Rd Birkdale and Ainsdale Station Rd. What a way to entice custom by taking away parking for visitors/shoppers/diners.

    Nothing wrong with being a good driver it allows you to be able to avoid the idiots who seem to have a monopoly on the use of our roads (that is the ones that aren't changed at the drop of a hat without consultation).
    To really be a good driver, perhaps you might take your blinkers off and not let the red mist descend. A lot of problems that I’ve found over the years, whilst dealing with drivers is their arrogance of how good they really think they are and how everything is the fault of others, a theme which seems to crop up on many of your posts.

    I seem to remember you posting a while back how if I was to go for a drive with you, I’d realise what a crap driver I am. I posted up my qualifications and I’m still waiting on this demonstration. (But obviously not holding my breath!)

    Feel free to contact me via the message system and we can do a mutual driving demonstration. I’ll even treat you to a coffee at one of these local businesses who are struggling to survive.

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  23. gazaprop says:15/09/2020 11:58 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Sap33 View Post
    To really be a good driver, perhaps you might take your blinkers off and not let the red mist descend. A lot of problems that I’ve found over the years, whilst dealing with drivers is their arrogance of how good they really think they are and how everything is the fault of others, a theme which seems to crop up on many of your posts.

    I seem to remember you posting a while back how if I was to go for a drive with you, I’d realise what a crap driver I am. I posted up my qualifications and I’m still waiting on this demonstration. (But obviously not holding my breath!)

    Feel free to contact me via the message system and we can do a mutual driving demonstration. I’ll even treat you to a coffee at one of these local businesses who are struggling to survive.

    I travel the road between Croston and Chorley almost daily, both in a car and a HGV. The road is very popular with cyclists and the standard of 'cycling proficiency' is frankly appalling.
    I've lost count of the number of potentially serious collisions I've had to avoid, due entirely to the stupidity of the cyclist/s.

    Favourite stupid acts include - adjusting the fit of the ridiculous and obviously uncomfortable lycra outfit causing a wobble or swerve into my path.

    Adjusting the fit of the helmet or, the angle of the helmet mounted camera - same result.

    Gossiping so intently with a companion that they only become aware of a hazard at the last minute - same result.

    Adjusting some 'app' on the bike mounted phone or device - same result.

    Seeing a lump in the road that might cause the inappropriately 'race standard' saddle to impact their 'bits' - same result.

    The reality of the situation is this - drivers are not allowed to be on the road without passing a very stringent set of tests, HGV drivers more so.

    Anyone can walk into a bicycle shop and ride out with no instruction or testing whatsoever - I would suggest that in any scenario, this mix of experience and the novice is a recipe for disaster.

  24. lawed143 says:15/09/2020 12:37 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by gazaprop View Post
    I travel the road between Croston and Chorley almost daily, both in a car and a HGV. The road is very popular with cyclists and the standard of 'cycling proficiency' is frankly appalling.
    I've lost count of the number of potentially serious collisions I've had to avoid, due entirely to the stupidity of the cyclist/s.

    Favourite stupid acts include - adjusting the fit of the ridiculous and obviously uncomfortable lycra outfit causing a wobble or swerve into my path.

    Adjusting the fit of the helmet or, the angle of the helmet mounted camera - same result.

    Gossiping so intently with a companion that they only become aware of a hazard at the last minute - same result.

    Adjusting some 'app' on the bike mounted phone or device - same result.

    Seeing a lump in the road that might cause the inappropriately 'race standard' saddle to impact their 'bits' - same result.

    The reality of the situation is this - drivers are not allowed to be on the road without passing a very stringent set of tests, HGV drivers more so.

    Anyone can walk into a bicycle shop and ride out with no instruction or testing whatsoever - I would suggest that in any scenario, this mix of experience and the novice is a recipe for disaster.
    OMG, you don’t half spout some crap. As a “ professional driver” you should be leaving enough clearance, rather than having to swerve to avoid a cyclist, who ‘might’ change course slightly to avoid an obstacle. Also chatting is allowed, just like chatting in a car is too.....
    The reality of the situation is, you’re a sh*t driver.

  25. Sap33 says:15/09/2020 01:40 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by gazaprop View Post
    I travel the road between Croston and Chorley almost daily, both in a car and a HGV. The road is very popular with cyclists and the standard of 'cycling proficiency' is frankly appalling.
    I've lost count of the number of potentially serious collisions I've had to avoid, due entirely to the stupidity of the cyclist/s.

    Favourite stupid acts include - adjusting the fit of the ridiculous and obviously uncomfortable lycra outfit causing a wobble or swerve into my path.

    Adjusting the fit of the helmet or, the angle of the helmet mounted camera - same result.

    Gossiping so intently with a companion that they only become aware of a hazard at the last minute - same result.

    Adjusting some 'app' on the bike mounted phone or device - same result.

    Seeing a lump in the road that might cause the inappropriately 'race standard' saddle to impact their 'bits' - same result.

    The reality of the situation is this - drivers are not allowed to be on the road without passing a very stringent set of tests, HGV drivers more so.

    Anyone can walk into a bicycle shop and ride out with no instruction or testing whatsoever - I would suggest that in any scenario, this mix of experience and the novice is a recipe for disaster.
    I agree that the standard of some cyclists is shocking, however, in comparison, there are very few cases of people being killed or seriously injured by Cyclists, unlike with cars and HGVs.
    I hold a car licence, motorcycle licence and have held a Cat C+E, for over 20 years so I’m aware of the standard of driving needed to pass the tests. One of the main lessons I remember was how, when passing cyclists and other vulnerable road users, to give them at least as much space as you would a car as they can be unpredictable.

    Mostly, this comment was addressed to Little Londoner, who, despite never meeting me, a few weeks ago told me how if I were to go for a drive with him, I would realise what, (in his words), a crap driver I was. It was posted to see if he’s prepared to demonstrate this, as I’ve yet to receive a response.
    Last edited by Sap33; 15/09/2020 at 03:28 PM.

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