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  1. salus.populi says:08/07/2019 07:20 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by toffee man View Post
    HMP Altcourse is in Sefton
    No it isn't.

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  3. salus.populi says:08/07/2019 07:22 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by thediscovolante View Post
    i never thought that out,,,,no prisons in sefton......but you are correct,,,if you are claiming benefits then you should do a few hours a week work for the community..because they have nothing else to do???? or do they??
    You seem to be missing my point. I'm not suggesting people work for their benefits, I'm suggesting that if there's work to be done that jobs are created to do the work, thereby reducing unemployment.

  4. jamyramy says:08/07/2019 07:23 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by salus.populi View Post
    What are you talking about?
    How on earth does offering someone a job breach their human rights?

    But if you're correct I'd like to seek compensation for my 33 year's continuous employment.
    your suggestion of unemployed on benefits being enrolled into doing community work as a return for their benefits .its been broached before.

  5. Sap33 says:08/07/2019 09:26 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by toffee man View Post
    HMP Altcourse is in Sefton
    Altcourse is in Fazakerley, which isn’t in Sefton!

  6. donkey22 says:08/07/2019 09:28 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by thediscovolante View Post
    i never thought that out,,,,no prisons in sefton......but you are correct,,,if you are claiming benefits then you should do a few hours a week work for the community..because they have nothing else to do???? or do they??
    Why should they? If you want someone to do a fair days work, they should expect to receive a fair days pay in return.

  7. Little Londoner says:09/07/2019 07:15 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Alikado View Post
    Any volunteers to pay an extra £10 per month to enable the Council to maintain the Parks or should we have a referendum to decide what we want them to prioritise

    SOCIAL CARE
    HIGHWAYS
    PARKS
    In its hey day Hesketh Park had an army of gardeners park rangers etc etc the World didn't revolve around the Super Rich governed by a vindictive set of immoral charlatans who look after the rich at the expense of everyone else.

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  9. local says:09/07/2019 07:43 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Little Londoner View Post
    In its hey day Hesketh Park had an army of gardeners park rangers etc etc the World didn't revolve around the Super Rich governed by a vindictive set of immoral charlatans who look after the rich at the expense of everyone else.

    I think you are a little mixed up Hesketh Park totally stems from a grossly unequal society.
    It was gifted to the town by a very rich family (Heskeths) who relied on thousands of lowly paid people to enrich themselves in a time before the NHS and state benefits.

    The Government we have today despite being dysfunctional are like Father Christmas to the masses compared to what it was like with overcrowding and poverty the norm for so many.

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  11. salus.populi says:09/07/2019 09:07 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by jamyramy View Post
    your suggestion of unemployed on benefits being enrolled into doing community work as a return for their benefits .its been broached before.
    That's not what I was suggesting.

    I was suggesting creating jobs to reduce unemployment.

  12. silver fox says:10/07/2019 08:05 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by local View Post
    I think you are a little mixed up Hesketh Park totally stems from a grossly unequal society.
    It was gifted to the town by a very rich family (Heskeths) who relied on thousands of lowly paid people to enrich themselves in a time before the NHS and state benefits.

    The Government we have today despite being dysfunctional are like Father Christmas to the masses compared to what it was like with overcrowding and poverty the norm for so many.
    You're going back a bit for those conditions, in fact it was precisely those conditions which brought about the Trades Unions and eventually the Labour Party, a few would like a return to those days, the likes of Rees-Mogg for starters.

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  14. local says:12/07/2019 07:26 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by silver fox View Post
    You're going back a bit for those conditions, in fact it was precisely those conditions which brought about the Trades Unions and eventually the Labour Party, a few would like a return to those days, the likes of Rees-Mogg for starters.

    I was replying to this post;

    In its hey day Hesketh Park had an army of gardeners park rangers etc etc the World didn't revolve around the Super Rich governed by a vindictive set of immoral charlatans who look after the rich at the expense of everyone else.


    The Labour Party abandoned the poor years ago.

    They decided to pursue Euro-Islington policies that let people pay the price for their European susperstate support.

    Blair gave away peoples jobs, homes and services in pursuit of a European superstate.

    In desperation they now vote for Farage.

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  16. onehorsetown2 says:11/08/2019 08:37 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by thediscovolante View Post
    but sefton has thousands of prisoners banged up doing nothing.....get them working on projects like this..good for them good for the comunity
    No local authorities have prisons, all prison are run by the government and even if Sefton wanted to use the prisoners they wouldn't be able to - come into the real world

  17. onehorsetown2 says:11/08/2019 08:40 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by salus.populi View Post
    That's not what I was suggesting.

    I was suggesting creating jobs to reduce unemployment.
    And what other service would you have removed to pay for the extra wages!



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