Originally Posted by The PNP

@ Libraryguy,

You're being suckered in mate. Yes, I do have access to a family members account, but no, I'm not in the habit of using it. Even when I received a long ban several years ago, though I could easily have used it, I played fair and kept off the site.

What I don't understand about Mick, is he knows me, as we've met. I used him only a few years ago, when he was still doing van work, to remove a family members stuff into a new flat on Rufford Rd. If he was any judge of character, he'd know I wouldn't be ar$ed running several accounts and arguing with myself online etc, to 'win' on a thread or whatever - duh!

Anyways, make up your own mind about his odd claims. Though I'm sure one or two posters do use additional 'handles', or at the very least, text a mate/s to come online and back them up sometimes . The plain fact is, he's barking up the wrong tree here entirely and making a complete fool out of himself for nothing, lol!

Is everyone being suckered in by me or are they seeing it for themselves, you say you have access to family members accounts and it’s normal to txt mates to come on and back you up, but if I say this it’s a conspiracy theory of a delusional failed detective. I stated this without knowing for sure because I am not sat next to you to watch you but it was obvious to all and I don’t think it’s normal and although you have been banned before and I can only guess why from the language, threats and accusations that I suspect your alter accounts ( or family and friends ) use and have been banned for again, but you say you did have access to accounts while you were banned just makes me wonder at this period in time did the bicycle car sewer hating rhetoric cease cos there’s only you to spout this.
Yes I have met you a few times not just in rufford rd where I gave you a super cheap quote to move your daughter into a flat that I knew well and had visited many times as a friend used to live there and I knew those stairs were no easy task to climb with stuff. But I first met you when moving that carpet, do you want me to write about that episode and the people involved and how it didn’t go well for you and what you were up to, you see I knew more than you thought that day and I know where the carpet ended up with funky phil and even then I knocked a fiver off the price and came all that way and helped you lift it and move it just for a tenner. And I hope I am a good judge of character but so are the many many people I have met on this site and I am confident that even the few I have not met ( or moved ) can spot what’s going on here and it doesn’t take anyone like me to highlight it with it being obvious. And I only need one account as I am not exiting enough to have any more than one.
So people are being suckered in by someone who says only what they see and have sussed and turns out to be correct and it’s not just me. Folk are being told they are being suckered in by me from someone who has access to other accounts but doesn't use them and thinks it’s normal to have other accounts and txt his mates to come on and back him up and has just been banned on one of his accounts for resorting to abusive behaviour and a long ban on his main account a while ago for who knows what. Things are coming clearer, the fish is being hooked by his own mouth .

Originally Posted by MICK/GILLY

Is everyone being suckered in by me or are they seeing it for themselves, you say you have access to family members accounts and it’s normal to txt mates to come on and back you up, but if I say this it’s a conspiracy theory of a delusional failed detective. I stated this without knowing for sure because I am not sat next to you to watch you but it was obvious to all and I don’t think it’s normal and although you have been banned before and I can only guess why from the language, threats and accusations that I suspect your alter accounts ( or family and friends ) use and have been banned for again, but you say you did have access to accounts while you were banned just makes me wonder at this period in time did the bicycle car sewer hating rhetoric cease cos there’s only you to spout this.
Yes I have met you a few times not just in rufford rd where I gave you a super cheap quote to move your daughter into a flat that I knew well and had visited many times as a friend used to live there and I knew those stairs were no easy task to climb with stuff. But I first met you when moving that carpet, do you want me to write about that episode and the people involved and how it didn’t go well for you and what you were up to, you see I knew more than you thought that day and I know where the carpet ended up with funky phil and even then I knocked a fiver off the price and came all that way and helped you lift it and move it just for a tenner. And I hope I am a good judge of character but so are the many many people I have met on this site and I am confident that even the few I have not met ( or moved ) can spot what’s going on here and it doesn’t take anyone like me to highlight it with it being obvious. And I only need one account as I am not exiting enough to have any more than one.
So people are being suckered in by someone who says only what they see and have sussed and turns out to be correct and it’s not just me. Folk are being told they are being suckered in by me from someone who has access to other accounts but doesn't use them and thinks it’s normal to have other accounts and txt his mates to come on and back him up and has just been banned on one of his accounts for resorting to abusive behaviour and a long ban on his main account a while ago for who knows what. Things are coming clearer, the fish is being hooked by his own mouth .

Wow what a load of tosh. Come on Mick, come and meet me and then you’ll see I’m not the guy you met all those years ago. I’m an individual….a different person. I haven’t a clue who PNP is, have never met anyone from here before as frankly I’m not interested. But yes, let’s meet up and have a coffee. Sort this rubbish out.

Oh, and there’s some new cycling infrastructure going in at Marshside/Cambridge Rd junction…..woohoo. It’s coming….a cycling town. Yaye. :-)

Originally Posted by MICK/GILLY

Is everyone being suckered in by me or are they seeing it for themselves, you say you have access to family members accounts and it’s normal to txt mates to come on and back you up.

No mate, I said some on here will undoubtedly have alternative 'handles' that they may use and I don't doubt some txt mates to support them too. I did not say I do that, because I don't.

Originally Posted by lawed143

Wow what a load of tosh. Come on Mick, come and meet me and then you’ll see I’m not the guy you met all those years ago. I’m an individual….a different person. I haven’t a clue who PNP is, have never met anyone from here before as frankly I’m not interested. But yes, let’s meet up and have a coffee. Sort this rubbish out.

Oh, and there’s some new cycling infrastructure going in at Marshside/Cambridge Rd junction…..woohoo. It’s coming….a cycling town. Yaye. :-)

Did he txt you to tell you to say this , you don’t want to meet me ..

Originally Posted by MICK/GILLY

Did he txt you to tell you to say this , you don’t want to meet me ..

You’re correct, I have no real desire to meet you, I actually pity you though. Thus, I’d be prepared to meet you to prove I’m not who you think I am and put this ridiculous situation you’ve created to bed. Then we can move on and have proper debate without you turning to insults, harassment, and embarrassment. I have you the option twice now, but you’ve refused. I can’t do any more. It’s your problem to resolve.

I didn’t create the situation I have only one account, I highlighted this problem so it might be resolved. There are many others that have spoken out and many more that haven't that only have one account that know and have told you they know so why didn't you want to meet them?, do you think by meeting me or sending someone that there would be something you could say that you couldn’t say here or was this an obvious attempt to pressure me into not saying the obvious. You say you live on my head but it’s you that’s getting stressed and is bursting to meet me, you that’s flapping and you that should have the pity.
Anyway I dare say this nonesense will continue, all I did was to highlight it, you should just carry it on thinking no one has noticed it’s old, childish and sad to watch but you have got many fans on here that love you very much ….. ha.

Originally Posted by MICK/GILLY

I didn’t create the situation I have only one account, I highlighted this problem so it might be resolved. There are many others that have spoken out and many more that haven't that only have one account that know and have told you they know so why didn't you want to meet them?, do you think by meeting me or sending someone that there would be something you could say that you couldn’t say here or was this an obvious attempt to pressure me into not saying the obvious. You say you live on my head but it’s you that’s getting stressed and is bursting to meet me, you that’s flapping and you that should have the pity.
Anyway I dare say this nonesense will continue, all I did was to highlight it, you should just carry it on thinking no one has noticed it’s old, childish and sad to watch but you have got many fans on here that love you very much ….. ha.

As I said, I can prove I’m not the PNP with a a face to face meet. You have met him, so you know him…..when I turn up you’d see I’m not him….simple really.
You keep persisting with this harassment, hence why I want to resolve it an move on. But no, you’d rather just keep on making up this garbage, and despite anything I say on here, you don’t engage in the topic, you merely throw out all this same multiple account/logout/login garbage. You’ve DM’d others on here and persuaded them with your illogical assumptions as being correct. You and the others keep harassing me and I will keep on reporting you. Admin will eventually have to take action.

I’m passionate about road safety, it’s not my career, but I’m an advocate of everyone being safe. I’m also a keen cyclist….so yes I respond to threads on here about road safety and cycling. I also post occasionally on other subjects but not as regularly.
I don’t see why you have issues with two individuals having similar ideals. So the PNP and I, and others agree on these road safety matters and post accordingly, and because of that you think that we must all be the same individual using multiple accounts.? Well I could therefore say the same about anyone who disagrees with me, or those that agree with you….how do I know you’re not StuartLi and BS Sniffer….? You certainly all talk very similarly. You back each other up and post at similar times….. see how ridiculous that is? That’s you - making random flaky connections and coming up with some totally whacky accusations.

I reported one of your accusation posts to the administrator citing harassment…cos that’s what you are doing. Do you get enjoyment out of harassing people on here? I have to say to you now, that if it continues, I will have no problem taking the matter formally to the site administrator, and will then take legal action against both them and you if they fail to act. They have a duty to investigate online abuse hosted on their servers, so they would be my first and preferred option. But if no action takes place, and you persist in harassing me, I will take it further.

I’ve tried to be fair for quite sometime, you’ve had the option to resolve this, but you don’t to. So this is final notice.

Wah wah wah I’ll cry to the admin, I’ll threaten to meet you ( any ONE OF THE LADS as you say could come and not be the PNP you must think we are all stupid ) and if you and five others are on to me I’ll cry to the police, this is exactly what I told Donkey when he was banned for calling me a paedophile, it looks like whatever I say TO YOU you copy it. Libryguy sent me a DM saying he is sick of your multiple accounts and that’s the only DM I have received and replied to so it’s not like I am trying to show you up in the background as you are doing it to yourself on the threads .
While you are there why don’t you tell them that you were saying I and libryguy were homosexuals and that’s just the start of it, go ahead tell who you want what you want because it’s not just me that thinks you are using multiple accounts and have been banned before but it’s others. You are a big baby that doesn't like that you have been sussed and told and you can’t get away with it , you have given yourself away in many posts and have been the fish that has caught himself many times with his own mouth. I have only said what I have seen, the similarities are obvious the rhetoric and style is the same, one account logs off while another logs on and likes each other and it’s not just me. If you feel harassed and persecuted by being sussed and told then that’s your problem what do you expect us all to do just ignore what we can see no this is a fair forum for debate not a notice board for only your views in different guises.
You abuse me threaten me and then say you will report me go and boil your head .
Oh and we still all know …and I hope admin does take action .

Originally Posted by MICK/GILLY

Wah wah wah I’ll cry to the admin, I’ll threaten to meet you ( any ONE OF THE LADS as you say could come and not be the PNP you must think we are all stupid ) and if you and five others are on to me I’ll cry to the police, this is exactly what I told Donkey when he was banned for calling me a paedophile, it looks like whatever I say TO YOU you copy it. Libryguy sent me a DM saying he is sick of your multiple accounts and that’s the only DM I have received and replied to so it’s not like I am trying to show you up in the background as you are doing it to yourself on the threads .
While you are there why don’t you tell them that you were saying I and libryguy were homosexuals and that’s just the start of it, go ahead tell who you want what you want because it’s not just me that thinks you are using multiple accounts and have been banned before but it’s others. You are a big baby that doesn't like that you have been sussed and told and you can’t get away with it , you have given yourself away in many posts and have been the fish that has caught himself many times with his own mouth. I have only said what I have seen, the similarities are obvious the rhetoric and style is the same, one account logs off while another logs on and likes each other and it’s not just me. If you feel harassed and persecuted by being sussed and told then that’s your problem what do you expect us all to do just ignore what we can see no this is a fair forum for debate not a notice board for only your views in different guises.
You abuse me threaten me and then say you will report me go and boil your head .
Oh and we still all know …and I hope admin does take action .

Reported to admin and copied for legal process.

For the same reason that Editor closed another thread, this thread is also being closed.

This constant abuse/bickering has to stop, along with the speculation that every member who supports cycling is actually one person using multiple accounts. I have incontrovertible evidence that Lawed143 is not the PNP, Donkey, or anyone else who may support cycling initiatives.

Any future threads that degenerate the same way will also be closed.