Originally Posted by salus.populi

Yes but we also have the sort of places I mentioned which have been the source of much of the towns anti social behaviour for the last few years.

Which places, Where?

Originally Posted by salus.populi

Why should anyone do that? Just to convince you that "PC has gone mad"?
3 days have passed and nobody has tried to excuse or defend this behaviour. Maybe the sort of people who would defend it only exist in your imagination.

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UPDATE - Wednesday 2pm Aug 25th - Liverpool Echo reporting that there was a second stabbing victim in this assault. We are awaiting reply for more information from Merseyside Police press office.

Originally Posted by local

Someone should write a PC defence for these youths.

Disadvantaged, Conservative Cuts, School Meals etc etc

Personally, I couldn't think of any excuse for this type of behaviour.

As another poster mentioned, no one on here is trying to excuse the stabbing.
Interesting you should highlight some of this government’s more recent failures though. A number of studies have highlighted the link between austerity and youth crime, in particular a parliamentary report that makes a direct link to knife crime and austerity.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...01856.html?amp
https://www.researchgate.net/publica...e_of_Austerity
https://www.london.gov.uk/press-rele...-violent-crime

Originally Posted by donkey22

As another poster mentioned, no one on here is trying to excuse the stabbing.
Interesting you should highlight some of this government’s more recent failures though. A number of studies have highlighted the link between austerity and youth crime, in particular a parliamentary report that makes a direct link to knife crime and austerity.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...01856.html?amp
https://www.researchgate.net/publica...e_of_Austerity
https://www.london.gov.uk/press-rele...-violent-crime

As predicted there's always someone who looks to blame someone else.

With your mindset, every homeless person is a criminal.

Originally Posted by local

As predicted there's always someone who looks to blame someone else.

With your mindset, every homeless person is a criminal.

Homeless people?
Wake up. It’s not my opinion. Ive posted 3 links that show a correlation between austerity and Youth crime. I didn’t write the reports, I've merely linked to them. Who mentioned homeless people?
Edit- But now that you’ve mentioned yet another of this government’s failings, unsurprisingly there’s plenty of reports mentioning the link between austerity and homelessness.
https://www.insidehousing.co.uk/insi...sleeping-59998

Originally Posted by Alikado

Which places, Where?

There are a number of children's homes in residential areas of the town run by private care agencies. One in Hampton Road has been well known as a source of anti social behaviour for several years.

Originally Posted by donkey22

Homeless people?
Wake up. It’s not my opinion. Ive posted 3 links that show a correlation between austerity and Youth crime. I didn’t write the reports, I've merely linked to them. Who mentioned homeless people?
Edit- But now that you’ve mentioned yet another of this government’s failings, unsurprisingly there’s plenty of reports mentioning the link between austerity and homelessness.
https://www.insidehousing.co.uk/insi...sleeping-59998

I mentioned homeless people because you give the excuse for lawless behaviour of austerity and homeless people are at the bottom of the pile.

Austerity is not an excuse for law-breaking.

How stabbing someone can be blamed on any government, defeats most sensible people.

Why do you look for excuses for these deadbeats?

Am I to think if you fell on hard times you would start stabbing people?

Originally Posted by local

I mentioned homeless people because you give the excuse for lawless behaviour of austerity and homeless people are at the bottom of the pile.

Austerity is not an excuse for law-breaking.

How stabbing someone can be blamed on any government, defeats most sensible people.

Why do you look for excuses for these deadbeats?

Am I to think if you fell on hard times you would start stabbing people?

For the second time in this thread, I’m not condoning violent behaviour of any kind.
I’m providing well researched links from respected groups and organisations that demonstrate a correlation to austerity and youth crime. A concept that surely most intelligent people can grasp. This thread has nothing to do with homeless people. Perhaps stay on topic?
I look forward to reading your reply, citing sources to disprove this link?

Originally Posted by donkey22

For the second time in this thread, I’m not condoning violent behaviour of any kind.
I’m providing well researched links from respected groups and organisations that demonstrate a correlation to austerity and youth crime. A concept that surely most intelligent people can grasp. This thread has nothing to do with homeless people. Perhaps stay on topic?
I look forward to reading your reply, citing sources to disprove this link?

Again you are giving links to reports that give excuses for poor behaviour just as I predicted someone would.

Telling us that people who aren't very bright, don't make the right choices in life get into trouble and have no money is let's say at the bottom end of social research.

Great fodder for those who think little but like to blame the "guvvernment" for anything and everything.

Originally Posted by local

Again you are giving links to reports that give excuses for poor behaviour just as I predicted someone would.

Telling us that people who aren't very bright, don't make the right choices in life get into trouble and have no money is let's say at the bottom end of social research.

Great fodder for those who think little but like to blame the "guvvernment" for anything and everything.

I’m providing links to reports and papers that have been researched by people who are far better qualified than you or I in the field of criminology. If you’re so convinced that there is no link between youth crime and austerity, prove it.
I’ve already requested this, and knowing how much of a tory apologist you are, I sense it could be a long wait.

Originally Posted by donkey22

I’m providing links to reports and papers that have been researched by people who are far better qualified than you or I in the field of criminology. If you’re so convinced that there is no link between youth crime and austerity, prove it.
I’ve already requested this, and knowing how much of a tory apologist you are, I sense it could be a long wait.

It is actually a very short wait because I have already answered it but you are another lefty loser obsessed with blaming the "guvvernment" instead of the perpetrators.



"Telling us that people who aren't very bright, don't make the right choices in life get into trouble and have no money is let's say at the bottom end of social research.

Great fodder for those who think little but like to blame the "guvvernment" for anything and everything."



As to the likes of Joe Yates, what do you expect you might as well ask Nigel Farage for his views on Brexit.

Originally Posted by local

Someone should write a PC defence for these youths.

Disadvantaged, Conservative Cuts, School Meals etc etc

Personally, I couldn't think of any excuse for this type of behaviour.

There are probably multiple reasons which could be trotted out, but anti-social up to outright violent behaviour is self generated by the perpetrators.

Originally Posted by local

It is actually a very short wait because I have already answered it but you are another lefty loser obsessed with blaming the "guvvernment" instead of the perpetrators.



"Telling us that people who aren't very bright, don't make the right choices in life get into trouble and have no money is let's say at the bottom end of social research.

Great fodder for those who think little but like to blame the "guvvernment" for anything and everything."As to the likes of Joe Yates, what do you expect you might as well ask Nigel Farage for his views on Brexit.

I don't disagree with yourself or Donkey 22 but bringing left and right into it is taking away the disgust we ALL feel about this incident.
I am straight down the middle when it comes to politics but calling people Lefty Losers is odd when everyone on Benefits is labelled a Scrounger by Righty Winners but when the rich are dodging tax worth far more than the Benefit bill and getting away with it you Righty Winners keep schtum.

Now back to the thread, the whole of society over the last 60/70 years has changed into a grasping money grabbing compensation cultured morass where giving your thoughts on anything is immediately dissected by self appointed guardians of society categorising you in their little compartmental ideals.

What is the cause, Television were American programmes have brought the grasping money worshippers and their blame culture and gang culture. Is it Parenting where there are more disfunctional parents/single parents/ baby's conceived to make having to work a non starter, the lack of discipline both at home and at school and now even the Courts are hamstrung in punishing offenders. Is it Drugs where flash cars loads of money look a better option than working for a living.
Is it immigration where perfectly good well educated hard working immigrants are sneered at and jealously blamed for all our ills by envious generations of worthless uneducated everything for nothing families.
I don't know but since I was born in 1950 this Country is the Polar Opposite of the Neighbourly helpful law abiding communities where you felt safe and able to carry out you daily tasks without fear of mugging stabbing raping murdering which is now so prevalent in every corner of the Country.

And as Duncet pointed out we are nearing the end of our time and instead of dreading it it sometimes is a comfort to know it isn't long until get away from this horrible world. I fear for my Grandchildren as I watch them innocently laughing and playing as to what the future holds for them. There has got to be an answer and it is about time Political Correctness was replaced by Mutual Respect instead of having campaigns for this group and that group everyone going for a job must have the same chance and the best candidate gets the job not making an exception that we need more of A and less of B and only A can apply for the job.

Originally Posted by local

It is actually a very short wait because I have already answered it but you are another lefty loser obsessed with blaming the "guvvernment" instead of the perpetrators.



"Telling us that people who aren't very bright, don't make the right choices in life get into trouble and have no money is let's say at the bottom end of social research.

Great fodder for those who think little but like to blame the "guvvernment" for anything and everything."



As to the likes of Joe Yates, what do you expect you might as well ask Nigel Farage for his views on Brexit.

Oh dear. Had to resort to insults now?
What a shame, probably a reflection on your lack of intelligence more than anything else. You’ve let yourself down yet again.