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    Quote Originally Posted by silver fox View Post
    True, but you want to burn the trees, sure replant the trees, but don’t try to tell us that tiny sapling trees will absorb anything close to the CO2 absorbed by larger more mature trees, messes up your constant propaganda.
    Burning trees simply re-releases CO2 that was taken up by the trees from the atmosphere, so no net increase in atmospheric levels of CO2....Whereas CO2 from fracking wells is additional extra CO2, that was out of the equation underground.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The PNP View Post
    Burning trees simply re-releases CO2 that was taken up by the trees from the atmosphere, so no net increase in atmospheric levels of CO2....Whereas CO2 from fracking wells is additional extra CO2, that was out of the equation underground.
    Where do you think the CO2 in fossil fuels came from? Sure as hell it wasn’t the tooth fairy, according to your flawed argument burning fossil fuels only releases CO2 back into the atmosphere from where it came.

    Certainly we know that releasing more and more pollutants into the atmosphere is not the way forward, but your obsession doesn’t help in any way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver fox View Post
    Where do you think the CO2 in fossil fuels came from? Sure as hell it wasn’t the tooth fairy, according to your flawed argument burning fossil fuels only releases CO2 back into the atmosphere from where it came.

    Certainly we know that releasing more and more pollutants into the atmosphere is not the way forward, but your obsession doesn’t help in any way.
    Fossil-fuels are just that - fossils. And most fossils were laid down and buried way back long before humans evolved, when the world was warmer and sealevels were higher.....If you want flooding out and to live in a warmer world with its associated extreme weather, then go ahead and put that fossil CO2 back into the atmosphere!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The PNP View Post
    Fossil-fuels are just that - fossils. And most fossils were laid down and buried way back long before humans evolved, when the world was warmer and sealevels were higher.....If you want flooding out and to live in a warmer world with its associated extreme weather, then go ahead and put that fossil CO2 back into the atmosphere!

    So why are you burning bl00dy trees then ?

    Dumping decades of Co2 in hours that took decades to collect.

    Once burnt it's gone

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    Quote Originally Posted by local View Post
    So why are you burning bl00dy trees then ?

    Dumping decades of Co2 in hours that took decades to collect.

    Once burnt it's gone
    Myself, I only use timber product that comes from a sustainable source......I.e., the source plantation always has around the same standing tonnage of timber, which means no additional CO2 is added to the #climate change equation.

    Whereas fracking liberates additional CO2 into the #climate change equation......Simple algebra, work it out for yourself!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The PNP View Post
    Myself, I only use timber product that comes from a sustainable source......I.e., the source plantation always has around the same standing tonnage of timber, which means no additional CO2 is added to the #climate change equation.

    Whereas fracking liberates additional CO2 into the #climate change equation......Simple algebra, work it out for yourself!
    We all know that burning fossil fuels is releasing carbon that has been trapped for probably millions of years, but your wood burning is doing exactly the same on a much quicker time scale.

    Don’t care how you try to put your case, burning wood is not carbon neutral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donkey22 View Post
    Apart from being an environmental disaster, In March 2019, the High Court found the UK government's policy was unlawful and failed to consider the climate impact of shale gas extraction. In November 2019 the government announced "an indefinite suspension" to fracking, after a report by the Oil and Gas Authority (OGA) said it was not possible to predict the probability or size of tremors caused by the practice.
    The planet’s messed up enough as it is without going back down this route again. And anyway, Johnson’s promised us the lights won’t be going out this winter and we can meet our demand.
    What could possibly go wrong?
    What could go wrong? Well we could well have Labour in central Government as well as the disastrous Sefton Council.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billd View Post
    What could go wrong? Well we could well have Labour in central Government as well as the disastrous Sefton Council.
    Britain’s energy crisis has been years in the making, thanks to the Conservatives, also messed up Brexit, spectacularly messed up the handling of Covid. What next?

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    It's a novel idea to think that Bootle Labour would be representative of a Keir Starmer led Government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Region View Post
    It's a novel idea to think that Bootle Labour would be representative of a Keir Starmer led Government.
    I look forward to the inauguration of Westminster Working Men’s Club.

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    Only a true eco-dunce could think burning the Co2 mops and replacing them with a twig is a good idea.



    And just for good measure burning the mop releases pollution and huge amounts of yes you guessed it Co2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billd View Post
    What could go wrong? Well we could well have Labour in central Government as well as the disastrous Sefton Council.
    Because we're all doing so brilliantly well with the Tories in central government?

    Sure.

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    We're doing pretty well under the circumstances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donkey22 View Post
    I look forward to the inauguration of Westminster Working Men’s Club.
    Starmer is more a man of (tedious) essays.

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...idden-disaster

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    Quote Originally Posted by local View Post
    We're doing pretty well under the circumstances.
    You reckon? No government can be prepared for every eventuality, but some of what has occurred was well forecast long ago, some certainly not expected, however the measure of any government is how they deal with all events.

    This government has been an abject failure on many counts.

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