Middle east crisis.

[The PNP]

It's difficult to tell if you find it agreeable or disagreeable that local neighbourhood businesses and business owners themselves were targeted by local people for reasons of political passions stirred by war. Imagine being a business owner who found themselves in that situation - before they became an ex business owner, of course.

You mention a term used to describe Germans, and there's many terms used on social media to describe Jewish people.

I've recently read of Jewish restaurants being targeted.

I wonder if a vocal pro-Palestinian supporter and business owner will ever find themselves in a situation that provides a modern parallel to the story and situation you described?

What 'term' will be used to describe that person?

I understand the sausage shop was targeted through public outrage, as stories of German atrocities emerged.

[Desert Region]

I understand the sausage shop was targeted through public outrage, as stories of German atrocities emerged.

When people start getting angry and politically inflamed it can be both predictable and unpredictable what sets them off on targeting business owners.

Was the business owner in the case you've been presenting known to be vocal about their political views, would you know?

[Desert Region]

Which year was the sausage shop forced to close?

[The PNP]

When people start getting angry and politically inflamed it can be both predictable and unpredictable what sets them off on targeting business owners.

Was the business owner in the case you've been presenting known to be vocal about their political views, would you know?

That, I don't know. But in the circumstances prevailing at the time, I would imagine he kept his mouth well shut. I would also imagine he would have been dismayed at the way things were going, on the run-up to war.

N.B. I believe the sausage shop closed in the first year of the war.

[local]

It was right to kick him out.

If he had any evidence on Sadiq Khan and cronies he should have
backed it up.

We have evidence the real lived experience of Jewish people in our capital frightened to go out as massive mobs are free to preach hate and break the law.

Pinched straight from the Jewish Chronicle;


Shame on you, Sadiq Khan
When the Jews needed you, you showed you are no friend

His claims about zero tolerance of antisemitism should embarrass him, when the police’s sole contribution to the two demos in London has been to stand and watch while the streets have seen chants of “From the river to the sea” – a call for the elimination of Jews – as well as calls for jihad and for Muslim armies to rise up, along with signs that would have fitted in at Nuremburg. And all we have heard from Khan has been a few bland statements and the odd social media post, with not a word of outright condemnation of the festival of Jew hate on the streets of his city.

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Kahn faces anyway he sees a vote.

He talks with a very forked tongue but his actions or should I say inaction is there for all to see.



Sometimes it's not what you do or say it's what you don't do or say.

[sandGroundZero]

Scottish politician attacked over ‘appalling antisemitic comment’

First Minister Humza Yousaf urged to suspend the SNP’s John Mason over remarks made during a debate on war in Gaza

Humza Yousaf is being urged to suspend an SNP politician who said criticism of “the Jews” was admissible during a debate over Gaza.
John Mason, MSP for Glasgow Shettleston, said: “Most of the Jews I know in Scotland and in England as well have family and friends in Israel.
"It is the only Jewish state in the world and, according to the Bible, is the land which God gave his chosen people.
“Now, having said that, it does not mean that we cannot criticise the Jews or Israel.
"God himself is hugely critical of his people in much of the scriptures, not least when he punished them by exiling them to Babylon and elsewhere.”
Mason concluded by adding: “It is not antisemitic for some to say that the present Israeli offensive has been over the top and has possibly crossed the line from defence to revenge.”
Mason’s comments have led other members of parliament to urge First Minister Yousaf to suspend him.
Craig Hoy, the Scottish Conservative Chairman, said: “This is an appalling antisemitic comment from an SNP MSP that has no place in a mainstream political party.
“John Mason’s slur could not be more explicit – or ignorant. He must apologise immediately for the gross offence he has caused and Humza Yousaf must take action against his colleague.”
It is not the first time that Mason, a devout Christian and MSP since 2011, has sparked controversy.
In 2015, he called for Scottish children to be taught creationism in school, claiming it “cannot be disproved by science”.

…

When asked about his comments, Mason told the Scottish Sun: "I think my speech in today’s debate was the most sympathetic towards Israel of all the SNP speakers, was it not?
"I am a bit puzzled what the criticism is about."
In response to the JC’s request for comments, the SNP sent the following statement from Mason: "If any of my wording has caused offence, I am sorry about that. I think everyone knows that I am supportive of both Israel and the Jewish community.
“I completely agree with [Scottish Council of Jewish Communities] that much criticism of Israel is antisemitic and that was the theme of much of my speech yesterday. I have a good relationship over the years with SCoJeC and the wider Jewish community and I certainly hope that will continue.”

Eliana Jordan | February 23, 2024
©2024 The Jewish Chronicle

[Hamble]

We have evidence the real lived experience of Jewish people in our capital frightened to go out as massive mobs are free to preach hate and break the law.

Pinched straight from the Jewish Chronicle;


Shame on you, Sadiq Khan
When the Jews needed you, you showed you are no friend

His claims about zero tolerance of antisemitism should embarrass him, when the police’s sole contribution to the two demos in London has been to stand and watch while the streets have seen chants of “From the river to the sea” – a call for the elimination of Jews – as well as calls for jihad and for Muslim armies to rise up, along with signs that would have fitted in at Nuremburg. And all we have heard from Khan has been a few bland statements and the odd social media post, with not a word of outright condemnation of the festival of Jew hate on the streets of his city.

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Kahn faces anyway he sees a vote.

He talks with a very forked tongue but his actions or should I say inaction is there for all to see.



Sometimes it's not what you do or say it's what you don't do or say.

I agree Khan is part of the problem and his decision's as Mayor putting the lives and safety of Jewish people at risk every day.

Anderson could have compiled the evidence.
Sure many journalists have done the work biding their time.

Is it going to end in another Battle of Cable Street?

[Toodles McGinty]

It was right to kick him out.

If he had any evidence on Sadiq Khan and cronies he should have
backed it up.

I suspect 30p Lee knew exactly what he was doing.

He's appealing to extremists, sadly we have plenty of them across the political spectrum.

I'd wager good money he planned to jump ship to 'Reform' a while back. His type would rather be a big fish in a small pond than be a foot soldier in an established party. No loss when most of our MPs - of all main parties - sign up to serve their constituents rather than themselves.

[sandGroundZero]

Call for closer scrutiny of Palestine Solidarity Campaign after ‘genocidal call’ projected onto Big Ben The stunt showed ‘utter contempt for Parliament and the concerns of the Jewish community’, the Board of Deputies said … "The Board of Deputies said it showed “utter contempt not only for the concerns of the Jewish community but for our Parliament. "“From the river to the sea is seen by many Jews as a hate slogan.” "Anti-racism group Campaign Against Antisemitism said: “This is an organisation that clearly warrants closer scrutiny, especially given the influence that it is bringing to bear on our politics and the impact that it is having on our city centres.”" … The Likud Party: [Original Party] Platform (March 1977) The Right of the Jewish People to the Land of Israel (Eretz Israel) a. The right of the Jewish people to the land of Israel is eternal and indisputable and is linked with the right to security and peace; therefore, Judea and Samaria will not be handed to any foreign administration; between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty. b. A plan which relinquishes parts of western Eretz Israel, undermines our right to the country, unavoidably leads to the establishment of a "Palestinian State," jeopardizes the security of the Jewish population, endangers the existence of the State of Israel. and frustrates any prospect of peace. …

[Hamble]

I suspect 30p Lee knew exactly what he was doing.

He's appealing to extremists, sadly we have plenty of them across the political spectrum.

I'd wager good money he planned to jump ship to 'Reform' a while back. His type would rather be a big fish in a small pond than be a foot soldier in an established party. No loss when most of our MPs - of all main parties - sign up to serve their constituents rather than themselves.

He does seem to be a Reform leaning type with the gobbets he comes out with.

[Hamble]

Call for closer scrutiny of Palestine Solidarity Campaign after ‘genocidal call’ projected onto Big Ben The stunt showed ‘utter contempt for Parliament and the concerns of the Jewish community’, the Board of Deputies said … "The Board of Deputies said it showed “utter contempt not only for the concerns of the Jewish community but for our Parliament. "“From the river to the sea is seen by many Jews as a hate slogan.” "Anti-racism group Campaign Against Antisemitism said: “This is an organisation that clearly warrants closer scrutiny, especially given the influence that it is bringing to bear on our politics and the impact that it is having on our city centres.”" … The Likud Party: [Original Party] Platform (March 1977) The Right of the Jewish People to the Land of Israel (Eretz Israel) a. The right of the Jewish people to the land of Israel is eternal and indisputable and is linked with the right to security and peace; therefore, Judea and Samaria will not be handed to any foreign administration; between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty. b. A plan which relinquishes parts of western Eretz Israel, undermines our right to the country, unavoidably leads to the establishment of a "Palestinian State," jeopardizes the security of the Jewish population, endangers the existence of the State of Israel. and frustrates any prospect of peace. …

You really need to throw away that woke history book of yours.


1977?

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"In 2005, Israel implemented its unilateral disengagement plan under which it unilaterally withdrew Israeli armed forces and settlements from the Gaza Strip, including the Philadelphi Route, a narrow strip adjacent to the Gaza border with Egypt, and began the blockade of the Gaza Strip. Hamas won a surprise victory in the Palestinian elections of 2006, and has been engaged in a violent power struggle with Fatah."

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"Islam was first brought to the region of Palestine during the Early Muslim conquests of the 7th century, when the Rashidun Caliphate under the leadership of ?Umar ibn al-Khatt?b conquered the Shaam region from the Byzantine Empire. The Muslim army conquered Jerusalem, held by the Byzantine Romans, in November, 636."

[sandGroundZero]

Former Irgun terrorist and from 1977 to 1983 Prime Minister of Israel, Menachem Begin formalized an approach to the occupied territories that confounded the U.S. administrations since Jimmy Carter's Camp David Accords; effectively defying the United Nations' resolutions. ~ Israeli governments from Begin's forward have, when speaking about a two state solution, meant only that Palestinians resident in the West Bank and Gaza would have limited autonomy under the control of Israel. Israeli governments have endeavoured to retain both the West Bank of the River Jordan and Gaza containing the Palestinian population in Bantustan-style enclaves. Over time, Israel hopes to outwait its neighbouring Arab states. It seeks diplomatic 'normalization' thus, bypassing the Palestinian people.

[sandGroundZero]

Human rights body says Israel not following ICJ order on Gaza aid provision Human Rights Watch says Israeli government is blocking 'lifesaving aid' into Gaza and is 'starving' Palestinians The Israeli government has failed to comply with an order by the UN’s top court to provide urgently needed aid to desperate people in the Gaza Strip, Human Rights Watch has said. … “The Israeli government is starving Gaza’s 2.3 million Palestinians, putting them in even more peril than before the World Court’s binding order,” Omar Shakir, the Israel and Palestine director at Human Rights Watch, said. “The Israeli government has simply ignored the court’s ruling, and in some ways even intensified its repression, including further blocking lifesaving aid.” …

[Styx]

'You are the one killing us, Sinwar!': Gazans increase their protests against Hamas

Protester in Gaza captured on video: 'Shame on you, Hamas movement, for what you are doing to us! Our children are dying... in the streets... we are lost, we don’t know why the guns are pointed at us'

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/bjfg17hnp

[sandGroundZero]

The Likud Party: [Original Party] Platform (March 1977) The Right of the Jewish People to the Land of Israel (Eretz Israel) a. The right of the Jewish people to the land of Israel is eternal and indisputable and is linked with the right to security and peace; therefore, Judea and Samaria will not be handed to any foreign administration; between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty. b. A plan which relinquishes parts of western Eretz Israel, undermines our right to the country, unavoidably leads to the establishment of a "Palestinian State," jeopardizes the security of the Jewish population, endangers the existence of the State of Israel. and frustrates any prospect of peace. … A one state solution is the uncompromising Zionists' ideal — a single 'apartheid' state, west from the River Jordan — wherein its Jewish population rules. Non-Jewish residents are relegated to second class citizenship. The bulk of the Muslim population become outcaste. They are confined to Bantustan-style enclaves; their choice: endure this discrimination, else depart! Small wonder they rebel.