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Originally Posted by said
Once a wrongful accusation has been made publicly it is necessary to put the record right because any subsequent threads or opinions I give would allow other posters to doubt the provenance of the facts given.
Any personal abuse levelled against me is like water of a duck's back, but when it is made public, especially if it is wrong - that is a different matter.
So you were bothered? About being found out again,no doubt!
Just be yourself, no one else is better qualified!!
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Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty
I'd forgotten about the 'shadow people'.
How could you forget! Post 43 on the thread below. The ensuing comments are worth rereading as well
https://www.qlocal.co.uk/southport/f...55027979-3.htm
Originally Posted by said
Each of you can only quote one or two cases that you know about personally - I can therefore, assume that I have far more experience than any of you. I have worked in a large number of schools, both inner city and local, part of my work involved pupil counselling - I dealt with a huge number of cases involving a variety of problems that young people experience. Prior to working in schools, I worked as a scientific researcher. My past has been very colourful - I was brought up in one of the roughest areas of England, the Police patrolled in fours and sixes - not just two's. You either had to stand up for yourself or stay indoors. I mixed in many areas of society - from the down and outs on the streets to socialising with millionaires in Soho. Several times I found myself on city streets with no money and nowhere to go, but was always helped out by the shadow people (LGBT people) I have stayed with them and lived among them even though I was an outsider to their circle. During my counciling days, I met up with children who had found themselves parented by LGBT people through no choice of their own. I understood both sides of the problem - it was heartbreaking. You are completely wrong when you say I use the internet to explain my arguments - I use the internet to clarify names and dates. I have an excellent memory, a very wide knowledge based on experience and my social circles involve those who are also very highly educated and very much worldly wise. We each enjoy discussions and will accept when we are wrong, but when we are right we will argue our points stronger than a 5th Avenue Lawyer.
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Originally Posted by seivad
Seivad you have a better memory than the legendary elephants, (not that I'm calling you an elephant by the way), I had forgotten all that, even back then I kept thinking of the name Walter Mitty, some things don't change.
Just drifting off track momentarily, you took an interest in the new ferry company with no ferries and no ports, they now have no contract either, not sure if this is just another Failing Grayling episode, or possibly the government trying to kid us that they were actually doing something to avoid possible delays at ports.
Sorry for the divert, don't know if that news has reached your part of the world.
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Originally Posted by seivad
So what is wrong with that? That particular response is completely true and in answer to a particular question posed on the site. I am not sure what you are getting at here - are you trying to compare my life with your own? Do you deny that some people have a completely different outlook on life to yours? Are you saying that it is impossible to have so many variations in life? I have not lied about what I have or have not done - ever! I could include a great many other things, that are also true - and I dare say there are many people who could match the experiences that I have had, and add a lot more. What is the big deal?
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Originally Posted by said
So what is wrong with that? That particular response is completely true and in answer to a particular question posed on the site. I am not sure what you are getting at here - are you trying to compare my life with your own? Do you deny that some people have a completely different outlook on life to yours? Are you saying that it is impossible to have so many variations in life? I have not lied about what I have or have not done - ever! I could include a great many other things, that are also true - and I dare say there are many people who could match the experiences that I have had, and add a lot more. What is the big deal?
If you had bothered to read through the thread, from your post number 43, you would see that your fantasies were well & truly debunked by forum members.
For starters:
Originally Posted by said
I was brought up in one of the roughest areas of England, the Police patrolled in fours and sixes - not just two's. You either had to stand up for yourself or stay indoors.
Liars should have a good memory.
Originally Posted by said
Grew up in Southport and my sister still lives there - I visit often!
Originally Posted by said
Meaning that generations of my family over hundreds of years have lived in Lancashire/Cheshire, I live in Cheshire and Southport, having spent most of my life in Southport
Originally Posted by said
Imagine a huge fairground, each ride staffed by ex-prisoners. There were literally eight to ten coaches of people, intent on drinking, entering the area every week. There were a huge intake of Irish workers for the new road layouts. Mix this with Hells Angels and several other gangs - and imagine the outcome!
Reply from Toodles:
So you grew up on a fairground, where the police patrolled in fours and sixes? Well, the Shadow People would be handy on the ghost train, I suppose. Although eight to ten coaches of people a week is a p!ss poor turn out for even the smallest fairground. No wonder you had to switch careers to school counsellor then researcher. You might have been better off digging the roads with the 'Irish workers'.
Your reply:
Originally Posted by said
I will go along with your 'wind up' although you all seem to have difficulty in imagining anything outside of a bubble. I was brought up in Southport, that should not stop anyone from travelling around though. I spent many years travelling and have met many really interesting people from all walks of life. There was not just the coaches of skin heads present, obviously. People turned up in their thousands. There are several accounts to support everything I have told you, but as the saying goes "You cannot argue against those who do not know" and those who will not listen will never learn. By the way, I think the guy's name was Zackerman who employed ex convicts. He chose the biggest and the strongest because of the troubles - he was an ex Police sergeant and a really great guy. If people do not want to believe me, that is their problem, not mine.
Then this:
Originally Posted by said
I was born locally - I was moved to another area when I was thirteen and was brought up in one of the roughest areas of England. I do not lie, I do not exaggerate,
Previously you had told us this:
Originally Posted by said
Ha!Ha! I was sleeping on the streets when I was thirteen! My Dad refused to let me back in the house! You are really entertaining - you presume that everyone lives a life according to your own standards. I have six brothers, one of whom is coming over in a couple of weeks - would you like to speak to him? He will tell you a lot more than I am likely to
And on another thread:
Originally Posted by said
My family are a very close family that I am very proud of. We have always, and will always stand by one another - that goes for the hundreds of members of the extended family. There could have been none stronger than my own Mother and Father through some very testing times, I like to think that strength has passed on to us all.
And this, something a genuine counsellor would never misspell:
Originally Posted by said
During my counciling days, I met up with children who had found themselves parented by LGBT people through no choice of their own.
There are many more, both on this topic and other threads. I CBA rooting them all out, but a recent one springs to mind and I will try to find it.
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This is the thread where you blatantly lied on a topic that is so easily researched. We used to have a few members who were experts in the field of genealogy, they would have crucified you in a heartbeat. I notice that one of them read my response to you and "liked" it.
https://www.qlocal.co.uk/southport/f...h-55035944.htm
Originally Posted by said
We had a retired friend of the family do our research - he was brilliant. He found all the necessary Birth,Death and Marriage certificates for one side of our family dating back to the 11th century. On my mother's side it will not be so easy going as there is an Irish connection where surnames and place names coincide, and adoptions which will create great difficulties.
My reply:
Originally Posted by seivad
That's amazing, considering that civil registration of births, marriages and deaths wasn't introduced until 1837! ... so there were no such things as BMD certificates.
Prior to that there are parish records. In 1538 every church was ordered to keep a record of baptisms, marriages and burials. Not all parishes bothered to record them. However in 1597 Elizabeth 1 put her foot down, and they started keeping records. A few churches may have records before this date, but there are no records prior to the 1500s, and most definitely not for the 11th century.
Another Said fantasy... seek help.
As is usual when your lies are exposed, you didn't reply.
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Originally Posted by seivad
Ah yes, it had me in stitches for a while. I see he's resurrected it for attention. Hysterical. I wonder if the man who 'ran the Himalayas' was married to the woman with 22 children?
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wow so many contradictions there.just hope the most lifechanging experiences said has had is not an embellishment ,eise I,ll be disappointed in this persona
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In the big scheme of life is all this necessary? None of us is perfect, who is fit to cast stones at others? Not me for sure.
I thought I had forgotton how to make lumpy gravy.
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Originally Posted by Sue Ellen
In the big scheme of life is all this necessary? None of us is perfect, who is fit to cast stones at others? Not me for sure.
thank you ! a humbled reminder,yes its not.truth best left to karmas door .xx
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Originally Posted by jamyramy
thank you ! a humbled reminder,yes its not.truth best left to karmas door .xx
But it is good fun watching himself get in knots andmakea fool of himself.
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Originally Posted by Alikado
But it is good fun watching himself get in knots andmakea fool of himself.
h or h/self.according to prior posts.important point when one knows how much friends are dealing with in relation to these issues. not funny !
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If you look beyond your own prejudice, you can see that it is ALL true - I can assure you. I was not alone - I could mention at least one other person in Southport, a very well known person in his time, who was even more anti authoritarian than I. But you would never guess since he was known as a pillar of local society.
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Thanks jamyramy. I can assure you, the facts are all true. What benefit would I get from telling lies? Absolutely no point in that at all.
I find it equally difficult to imagine that all those who criticise me, led perfectly obedient and saintly lives. Really?
The experiences that I have mentioned were not life changing to me, and there has been no embellishments at all - in fact, I have intentionally not told all - some of the posters on here, after reading their incomprehensible comments - would go ballistic!
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The reason that I do not reply to some posts is for the simple reason that I am not always on line, I travel a lot. I believe that I have already mentioned that on this site.
You really do not have much imagination do you? Let me just expand on that which I wrote briefly. We had a friend of the family research the records in London. He did so, finding all the certificates that were available. From these we (seven people) researched church records, censuses and historical publications pertaining to the family name, with dates, occupations and areas to match. The gathered information was collected and examined until we were positive we had the correct lineage.
Now - wouldn't all that have been boring for most posters to read if I had included it all? Heaven's? Is that a knife sticking in my back?
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