Capitol Chaos

[sandGroundZero]

local's post #178:

You have invented a number of epithets to characterize President Trump while excusing his damaging words and actions. You allude to "despots", but you ignore or evade facts about Trump's Presidency that not only gratify despots, but worse, that tend to undermine such democratic legitimacy as the US system has.

Given your faux dismissive epithets, one wonders why you've consistently excused Trump's excesses. Connecting your Trumpista tendency with your BREXIT posts is not farfetched as you would have us believe. Your BREXIT posts rely heavily on ridiculing anti-BREXIT posters. Similarly, you've opposed a broad swathe of opinion you've described variously as irrational and/or obsessive vis-à-vis Trump, lumping them (us) with US Democratic party political positions, BLM supporters, liberals or Labour supporters' view of events; in short, the views that contradict your own including not least, BREXIT.

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I have asked repeatedly for evidence of his incitement …

…and repeatedly rejected it with the bogus objection that it must be limited to and consistent with your parsing and interpretation of Trump's January 6^th remarks to supporters at DC's The Ellipse.

You, local, have claimed "accuracy instead of hyperbole" is your motivation. But your posts tend to be scattershot repudiation of views that contradict your cherished notions, most notably BREXIT.

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Protesters AKA Trump supporters are currently gathering in Michigan, many openly heavily armed, at the moment the National Guard out number the numpties, but does anyone go to a peaceful protest armed to the teeth? why are they there? the answer is simple, they still believe the Trump lie that the election was stolen, they are following the rhetoric to take control, this all needs Trump to concede that he lost the election fair and square, but that won't happen.

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Protesters AKA Trump supporters are currently gathering in Michigan, many openly heavily armed, at the moment the National Guard out number the numpties, but does anyone go to a peaceful protest armed to the teeth? why are they there? the answer is simple, they still believe the Trump lie that the election was stolen, they are following the rhetoric to take control, this all needs Trump to concede that he lost the election fair and square, but that won't happen.

Even you must admit that Biden suddenly sneaked out of the wings - he has never been Mr Popular Has he? Obama was bitter that someone like Trump could take over from him - he did all he could and more to ensure Biden, his sparring mate got in. I am no friend of Trump - but I foresee trouble ahead with Biden who may not even last out his term so allowing Harris to get through. Whatever - it is to do with the States and their puppet government not me.

[sandGroundZero]

Soon to be President Joseph Biden's record as Senator and VP does not suggest he will thrill the 'progressive' wing of the Democratic party. Indeed, it is doubtful whether "thrill" has any application to Joe.

Somewhat surprisingly two Democratic candidates prevailed in the Georgia runoff resulting in the 50/50 split in the Senate. However, just because a Senator or Congress(wo)man is elected as a Democrat, it does not follow that they will fall into line with nominally Democratic policies.

Dem. Sen. Joe Manchin

Sen. Joe Manchin says he'd 'absolutely' oppose Biden's ...

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Even you must admit that Biden suddenly sneaked out of the wings - he has never been Mr Popular Has he? Obama was bitter that someone like Trump could take over from him - he did all he could and more to ensure Biden, his sparring mate got in. I am no friend of Trump - but I foresee trouble ahead with Biden who may not even last out his term so allowing Harris to get through. Whatever - it is to do with the States and their puppet government not me.

4 Years ago everybody said that Trump was too old and wouldn't last the term.

[local]

Plastic Joe has had so many procedures and Botox he could well morph into a robot before us.

At least his hair transplants are stable.

Trumps daily bleach infusions do seem to keep him looking fairly well.

I suppose the stress hasn't got to him like most politicians as his whole life has been spent in a bowl of cortisol mainly of his own manufacture.

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Plastic Joe has had so many procedures and Botox he could well morph into a robot before us.

At least his hair transplants are stable.

Trumps daily bleach infusions do seem to keep him looking fairly well.

I suppose the stress hasn't got to him like most politicians as his whole life has been spent in a bowl of cortisol mainly of his own manufacture.

He has achieved the first priority, remove Trump, now he has to unwind much of the damage perpetrated by the ego maniac, it will not be an easy ride, but hopefully he can work for the people and show that he is working for the people, sure would agree that Kamala Harris has probably a good chance of inheriting the Presidency, but that isn’t a bad thing at all.

[sandGroundZero]

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The violence that Americans witnessed—and that might recur in the coming days—is not a protest gone awry or the work of “a few bad apples.” It is the blossoming of a rotten seed that took root in the Republican Party some time ago and has been nourished by treachery, poor political judgment, and cowardice. — Ben Sasse, US senator from Nebraska

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More and more evidence is emerging that the whole thing was preplanned, financed, with the backing of too many Republicans or Trumpists, it was certainly not a peaceful demonstration which got out of hand.

Of course this is all as a result of weeks, months even years of lies, of deliberate misinformation, with Trump the main instigator.

[local]

He has achieved the first priority, remove Trump, now he has to unwind much of the damage perpetrated by the ego maniac, it will not be an easy ride, but hopefully he can work for the people and show that he is working for the people, sure would agree that Kamala Harris has probably a good chance of inheriting the Presidency, but that isn’t a bad thing at all.

Lets be honest Trump removed Trump.

A reformed Trump with even some of his very sharp edges removed would have got back in.

Biden was a bit player.

Most of us are looking to see how Kamala shapes up that in itself proves that Biden is almost irrelevant before he even gets in.

[silver fox]

Lets be honest Trump removed Trump.

A reformed Trump with even some of his very sharp edges removed would have got back in.

Biden was a bit player.

Most of us are looking to see how Kamala shapes up that in itself proves that Biden is almost irrelevant before he even gets in.

Hardly, Trump increased his total vote, granted much of the Biden vote was anti Trump, but whether Biden is a bit player as you suggest remains to be seen.

However there is no doubt that Trump was a threat to any form of democracy, he clearly intended to continue with increased power and control, he had already indicated the possibility of a continuation of the Presidency after his “successful” 2nd term.

It is also clear that he wasn’t alone, his support went further than convincing the militants.

Ironic that one of his big shouts was to clear the corruption, in truth he is more corrupt than anything previous, the corruption runs deep, there are calls for a number of his political support to be removed, how that will develop is not clear as yet, but there may be a real “clearing” of the swamp.

[sandGroundZero]

…whether Biden is a bit player as you suggest remains to be seen. — post #191

Joe Biden & Donald Trump

"bit player" is a continuation of a line of posts the purpose of which is odd, but consistently snarky. The message seems to be 'my Trump is losing ground, everywhere; but just look at your Joe Biden — (as Trump himself would have said) 'he's a loser'.
Laughable; and decidedly local

Joseph Biden's ascending to the Presidency at this strange juncture and after all these years is, indeed, a bit of a curiosity. He did not sweep into office bringing legislators on his coattails. He will quite likely be remembered in history as the President who succeeded Trump. There is reason to doubt he will accomplish any notable legislative achievements.

As for Kamala Harris, she was not particularly 'progressive ' either as a Senator or in her days as a Californian politician. Here's an item indicating something of Democratic party politics:

One of Harris’ most controversial decisions came in 2004 when she declined to pursue the death penalty against the man who murdered San Francisco police officer Isaac Espinoza. At the funeral, Senator Dianne Feinstein delivered a eulogy in which she criticized Harris, who was in the audience, prompting a standing ovation from the hundreds of officers in attendance.— Politico

Undoing some of President Trump's erratic handiwork will be the legacy of the new US administration.

[local]

Joe Biden & Donald Trump

"bit player" is a continuation of a line of posts the purpose of which is odd, but consistently snarky. The message seems to be 'my Trump is losing ground, everywhere; but just look at your Joe Biden — (as Trump himself would have said) 'he's a loser'.
Laughable; and decidedly local

Joseph Biden's ascending to the Presidency at this strange juncture and after all these years is, indeed, a bit of a curiosity. He did not sweep into office bringing legislators on his coattails. He will quite likely be remembered in history as the President who succeeded Trump. There is reason to doubt he will accomplish any notable legislative achievements.

As for Kamala Harris, she was not particularly 'progressive ' either as a Senator or in her days as a Californian politician. Here's an item indicating something of Democratic party politics:

One of Harris’ most controversial decisions came in 2004 when she declined to pursue the death penalty against the man who murdered San Francisco police officer Isaac Espinoza. At the funeral, Senator Dianne Feinstein delivered a eulogy in which she criticized Harris, who was in the audience, prompting a standing ovation from the hundreds of officers in attendance.— Politico

Undoing some of President Trump's erratic handiwork will be the legacy of the new US administration.

I'm sure you could produce some readable text, this font strangling for attention is simply puerile.

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[Hamble]

Recipe of the day.

Bitter Orange Tart.

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