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  1. Published on: 02/12/2019 06:41 AMReported by: roving-eye
    Voters in Southport who want to keep the Conservatives out are now being advised to vote Labour by all of the four main tactical voting sites.

    Coming just days after former Lib Dem MP John Pugh advised Southport residents to follow the advice of the sites, three of the sites have switched their recommendation to Labour based on growing evidence of a collapse in Lib Dem support here. The fourth had consistently recommended Labour.


    The change is a huge body blow to the Lib Dem campaign locally which had tried to offset a decade of decline in their vote in general elections in Southport by pushing the tactical vote angle this time in the hope of diverting support from Labour.


    Critics say it has now backfired spectacularly as the sites, which are often slightly behind the curve on the local situation, have now caught up with what is happening on the doorstep.


    Labour's Parliamentary Candidate Liz Savage says that recognition by the sites of the true level of support in Southport is overdue but welcome:


    "We've known for some time from our canvassing that it was a straight fight between us and the Tories, and indeed the Conservatives themselves recently publicly said exactly the same."


    "The Lib Dems have angered many remainers with the arrogance of their revoke and ignore half of the country stance, just as the Tories are trying to do with the other half."


    "Only Labour is trying to offer everyone an informed choice on Brexit and a policy that also looks at how we bring the country together afterwards."


    "Crucially, our policies are also the best chance Southport has of getting the investment it so desperately needs in our services, community and town centre."


    "If local people want to stop Johnson's appalling Brexit deal, ensure Southport's regeneration and prevent a sell-off of our NHS to US business interests, then they should vote Labour, it really is that simple."
      

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  3. Username2016 says:02/12/2019 07:01 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by roving-eye View Post
    Coming just days after former Lib Dem MP John Pugh advised Southport residents to follow the advice of the sites

    ensure Southport's regeneration and prevent a sell-off of our NHS to US business interests, then they should vote Labour, it really is that simple."
    John Pugh’s video was terrible he in essence said vote for us because we are not Tory or Labour and couldn’t refer to anything decent that he did whilst MP.

    Although Labour shouldn’t make the Libs angry as we will all pay for it in needing to pick up more leaflets from our doormats, they do need to be careful with the word “ensure” as it usually means “make certain of” which I’m yet to see a firm or credible plan that’s Southport specific.

    For the next election it’d be nice if parties would all use local printing firms as at least the locality will benefit from the boost in revenue from the doormat filling fodder. (Lib Dem local printing society aside

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/polit...explained/amp/)

  4. local says:02/12/2019 11:24 AM
    From Election Calculus these figures don't look good for Savage if only Labour had respected democracy they would be doing a lot better.


    Chance of
    winning
    CON
    72%
    LAB
    18%
    LIB
    10%
    UKIP



    2017
    Votes 2017
    Share Predicted
    Votes
    CON 18,541 38.7% 47.5%
    LAB 15,627 32.6% 27.8%
    LIB 12,661 26.4% 24.7%
    UKIP 1,127 2.4% 0.0%
    CON Majority 2,914 6.1% Pred Maj 19.7%


    https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk

  5. abbeyroad says:02/12/2019 12:02 PM
    Does anybody know why the EU would give Labour a better deal than the one that's already on the table? Why would they? What's in it for them?

  6. said says:02/12/2019 02:37 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by abbeyroad View Post
    Does anybody know why the EU would give Labour a better deal than the one that's already on the table? Why would they? What's in it for them?

    If Labour ignore most of the electorate - how can they expect most of the electorate to vote for them?

  7. Tentill4 says:02/12/2019 04:44 PM
    I think we should vote for the number of placards outside the houses, and by my reckoning, Ball and Percival are winning...:)

  8. Nash says:03/12/2019 10:20 AM
    Why vote for the Con-slime-ative Party. The leader is an habitaul liar with the attention span of a gnat, and his gang are the most incompetent and nasty bunch.

    When Theresa May stated that they were the nasty party she was spot, and they don't change their spots.


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